My Mum says if you park on Violet Road again she'll slash your tires
My Mum says if you park on Violet Road again she'll slash your tires
I'm sure it would, but, again a fiver-a-pop for, say, 10,000 fans across 19 games of the season is getting on for £1m annually for the club to subsidise - because no way (rightly so) should the tram or bus companies stand that cost.
Also, a sudden influx of cars to the park-and-ride sites is potentially going to require more land for additional spaces. Who's paying for that and the ongoing cost of maintaining it?
Almost as though it's not quite as easy as back-of-a-fag-packet, this transport-planning lark.
For context that was almost 17 years ago.. the new Bills stadium which opens tonight costs 2.2 Billion $
Here the club are ultimately rebuilding 3 stands, and other work around the stadium. So while I agree I thought it was high and don't necessarily disagree with your cynical thinking the cost of building anything is increasing astronomically.
Is that a euphemism?
@Russ has written:£790M is a mind blowing amount of money. For context, that's the same amount it cost to tear down Giants Stadium and build Metlife, the 82,000 seater bowl that hosted the World Cup Final.
At an average of £50 a seat, and pretending that there were no additional costs for things like stewarding and safety, they would need to sell the stadium out for the next 40 Premier League seasons to recoup that cash.
I realise this is very simplistic and doesn't account for things like increased corporate revenues and glorious Champions League campaigns, but if I were a cynic I'd wonder if this was a process designed to justify building a new stadium somewhere else.
For context that was almost 17 years ago.. the new Bills stadium which opens tonight costs 2.2 Billion $
Here the club are ultimately rebuilding 3 stands, and other work around the stadium. So while I agree I thought it was high and don't necessarily disagree with your cynical thinking the cost of building anything is increasing astronomically.
Fair, but the math still ain't mathing to me. Obviously I'm massively oversimplifying the equation but I really don't think that improved corporate revenue and the odd concert is making that much of a difference, especially when we factor in the higher match day costs and the huge cost of the money.
@JimShady has written:Free park and ride on the tram+bus with a match ticket would be a good thing to do if possible.
I'm sure it would, but, again a fiver-a-pop for, say, 10,000 fans across 19 games of the season is getting on for £1m annually for the club to subsidise - because no way (rightly so) should the tram or bus companies stand that cost.
Also, a sudden influx of cars to the park-and-ride sites is potentially going to require more land for additional spaces. Who's paying for that and the ongoing cost of maintaining it?
Almost as though it's not quite as easy as back-of-a-fag-packet, this transport-planning lark.
I think your figures are a bit high on both numbers and cost. If I was in the boardroom with a pin stripe suit on, I'm pretty sure I could get them to shake hands on £600,000 per season
I were a cynic I'd wonder if this was a process designed to justify building a new stadium somewhere else
Nah. That ship has, thankfully, sailed. I'm totally convinced we're staying put.
@BrettWilliams has written: @JimShady has written:Free park and ride on the tram+bus with a match ticket would be a good thing to do if possible.
I'm sure it would, but, again a fiver-a-pop for, say, 10,000 fans across 19 games of the season is getting on for £1m annually for the club to subsidise - because no way (rightly so) should the tram or bus companies stand that cost.
Also, a sudden influx of cars to the park-and-ride sites is potentially going to require more land for additional spaces. Who's paying for that and the ongoing cost of maintaining it?
Almost as though it's not quite as easy as back-of-a-fag-packet, this transport-planning lark.
I think your figures are a bit high on both numbers and cost. If I was in the boardroom with a pin stripe suit on, I'm pretty sure I coujld get them to shake hands on £600,000 per season
Good stuff. And the cost of the additional parking spaces and extra trams/buses that would need to be put on each match day?
@BrettWilliams has written: @JimShady has written:Free park and ride on the tram+bus with a match ticket would be a good thing to do if possible.
I'm sure it would, but, again a fiver-a-pop for, say, 10,000 fans across 19 games of the season is getting on for £1m annually for the club to subsidise - because no way (rightly so) should the tram or bus companies stand that cost.
Also, a sudden influx of cars to the park-and-ride sites is potentially going to require more land for additional spaces. Who's paying for that and the ongoing cost of maintaining it?
Almost as though it's not quite as easy as back-of-a-fag-packet, this transport-planning lark.
I think your figures are a bit high on both numbers and cost. If I was in the boardroom with a pin stripe suit on, I'm pretty sure I could get them to shake hands on £600,000 per season
Could you? What's your leverage in this scenario?
Have you been to Brighton? They don't put on extra trains, you just queue and queue.
And it's in the arse end of nowhere.
My Mum says if you park on Violent Road again she'll slash your tires
FTFY
@JimShady has written: @BrettWilliams has written: @JimShady has written:Free park and ride on the tram+bus with a match ticket would be a good thing to do if possible.
I'm sure it would, but, again a fiver-a-pop for, say, 10,000 fans across 19 games of the season is getting on for £1m annually for the club to subsidise - because no way (rightly so) should the tram or bus companies stand that cost.
Also, a sudden influx of cars to the park-and-ride sites is potentially going to require more land for additional spaces. Who's paying for that and the ongoing cost of maintaining it?
Almost as though it's not quite as easy as back-of-a-fag-packet, this transport-planning lark.
I think your figures are a bit high on both numbers and cost. If I was in the boardroom with a pin stripe suit on, I'm pretty sure I could get them to shake hands on £600,000 per season
Could you? What's your leverage in this scenario?
£600,000. Next question.
@Seven has written:I usually drive up from South Leics and park on some nimbys street in West Bridgford. I’ve not looked in any detail but not sure I’ll be able to with proposed new parking zones?
My Mum says if you park on Violet Road again she'll slash your tires
Abbey Road or Abbey Circus are my current roads of choice. M and S car park for an evening game. Can’t use this for Saturday games as the 3 hr limit doesn’t suit.
@Russ has written:£790M is a mind blowing amount of money. For context, that's the same amount it cost to tear down Giants Stadium and build Metlife, the 82,000 seater bowl that hosted the World Cup Final.
At an average of £50 a seat, and pretending that there were no additional costs for things like stewarding and safety, they would need to sell the stadium out for the next 40 Premier League seasons to recoup that cash.
I realise this is very simplistic and doesn't account for things like increased corporate revenues and glorious Champions League campaigns, but if I were a cynic I'd wonder if this was a process designed to justify building a new stadium somewhere else.
For context that was almost 17 years ago.. the new Bills stadium which opens tonight costs 2.2 Billion $
Here the club are ultimately rebuilding 3 stands, and other work around the stadium. So while I agree I thought it was high and don't necessarily disagree with your cynical thinking the cost of building anything is increasing astronomically.
Marinakis isn’t here to make money. He’s already lost tens of millions. The ground expansion just allows higher revenues so more can be spent.
The section 106 conditions:
The club must contribute:
£1.75million ($2.4m) to improve bus services on matchdays
£990,000 to help implement parking restrictions in the surrounding area
Close to £400,000 to improve park-and-ride facilities
£170,000 for canal-side development, electronic transport information displays and e-bike docking stations
£100,000 in new signs surrounding the stadium
More than £400,000 for walking and cycle path improvements.
So Jim can drive to the outskirts, get on his bike and dock it at the ground.
The section 106 conditions:
The club must contribute:
£1.75million ($2.4m) to improve bus services on matchdays
£990,000 to help implement parking restrictions in the surrounding area
Close to £400,000 to improve park-and-ride facilities
£170,000 for canal-side development, electronic transport information displays and e-bike docking stations
£100,000 in new signs surrounding the stadium
More than £400,000 for walking and cycle path improvements.
So Jim can drive to the outskirts, get on his bike and dock it at the ground.
I honestly do normally cycle there. Kinda. I get the train to the station, then a Lime Bike to the North side of Trent Bridge. It's not far, I occasionally walk it, but I enjoy the cycle and it gives me time for another pint. Would be nice if there were docking/ e-bikes in WB so that I could get it to Central Avenue occasionally.