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Jeff_Albertson
11 May 2023
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    tricky
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    17 Sep 2026, 11:57 p.m. 17 Sep 2026, 11:57 p.m.
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    There is a very viable route, with a bit of compulsory purchase (we once looked at buying the warehouse right next to shades proposed location). The reality is that it has next to no utility, except for on match days.

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    Russ
    Squad 8038 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 4:20 a.m. 18 Sep 2026, 4:20 a.m.
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    @noodle has written:
    @Russ has written:
    @Lessred has written:

    But the stadium makes the asset more valuable if you want to sell it on. The payback doesn't only have to be in terms of cash earned.

    Agreed, but if I'm taking on the liability as well as the asset I also want to see a timeline for a return. See: Seagrave

    A big part of the return is maintenance of PL status, which increases the capital value of the club. Better facilities means more income available to spend to improve the team, better ability to attract and retain players etc. That’s the only way he gets his £800m back*.

    Obviously it might not work out that way. See: Seagrave.

    * I don’t believe we have any idea how this will be financed. Maybe EM will be writing a cheque… but usually these things involve financial engineering that ties huge rocks around the necks of clubs which ramp up the existential risks they face by orders of magnitude.

    I actually think Tricky has a degree of a point that I'd missed, but I'd prefer not to acknowledge, which is that investing £790M to get £500M out might be acceptable if the £790M didn't have an otherwise legitimate route to be realized. But I still don't think the City Ground development as currently proposed makes much sense on a bunch of levels even accepting that.

    Still, I live in Canada. I like watching 11 men in red shirts kicking the ball better than the 11 men in the other colour shirts. I fully accept I'm less invested these days, not because I care less or am any less of a fan but because it's by definition a far smaller investment of my time than most of you who actually go to the games.

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    tricky
    Board 8800 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 9:06 a.m. 18 Sep 2026, 9:06 a.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    I'd prefer not to acknowledge, which is that investing £790M

    It's an easy mistake to make. You are thinking about the people watching the puppets running around on the pitch, when you should be thinking about the spreadsheets.

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    Ingo
    Squad 3285 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 9:32 a.m. 18 Sep 2026, 9:32 a.m.
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    Do people still use spreadsheets? I just ask Claude to tell me what I want to hear and everything is brilliant. Wished me happy Friday this morning, which was nice.

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    tricky
    Board 8800 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 9:40 a.m. 18 Sep 2026, 9:40 a.m.
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    I'm a bit nervous about this Claude fella. Sounds a bit french, and therefore not to be trusted.

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    Ingo
    Squad 3285 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 10:12 a.m. 18 Sep 2026, 10:12 a.m.
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    In my head he talks like Le Clerc off (of) Allo Allo.

    It is I, Claude. He is some data to tell you in a new and exciting way why you are skint.

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    Simon
    Squad 8623 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 11:34 a.m. 18 Sep 2026, 11:34 a.m.
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    @Ingo has written:

    Do people still use spreadsheets? I just ask Claude to tell me what I want to hear and everything is brilliant. Wished me happy Friday this morning, which was nice.

    Any reference to Friyay or POETS day?

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    Ingo
    Squad 3285 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 1:30 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 1:30 p.m.
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    I think I've zapped all his enthusiasm doing next weeks work schedule. I was going to see if he fancied a pint after work though so I'll update you later.

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    noodle
    Squad 1197 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 2:52 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 2:52 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    There is a very viable route, with a bit of compulsory purchase (we once looked at buying the warehouse right next to shades proposed location). The reality is that it has next to no utility, except for on match days.

    Certainly not comparable to here. And here there are many more matchdays as well. But make a long stretch of public open space and a lot of people will use it every day. There’s plenty of residential development going on in the area, it maybe creates an awesome cycle route from WB to the city too… of course it would serve Meadow Lane and TB to an extent too.

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    tricky
    Board 8800 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 3:08 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 3:08 p.m.
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    @noodle has written:

    But make a long stretch of public open space and a lot of people will use it every day.

    Loving this "flatten meadow lane" idea.

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    Seven
    Squad 2124 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 6:59 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 6:59 p.m.
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    A colleague was telling me her husband has a
    AI bot that he often talks to, he has given it a name. She said he’s always nice to the bot and will say please and thank you so in the event of bots taking over it won’t do anything to him or them. She said this with a straight face. Everyone is going fucking mad.

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    JimShady
    Squad 5062 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 7:29 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 7:29 p.m.
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    Well. I often say please and thank you to AI. It's just habit.

    Regarding his own bot, he's probably hosting his own secure AI. It's quite common. Once you do that, you'll need to give it a name, so.

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    tricky
    Board 8800 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 7:30 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 7:30 p.m.
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    I prefer warm blooded pets that might eat my face.

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    Simon
    Squad 8623 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 8:40 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 8:40 p.m.
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    Being polite to llms makes sense because they are including your inputs on their future outputs, so you are raising the tone of conversation in general and, hopefully, creating positive feedback loops.

    But those ais aren't the ones that are going to kill you, so that part of it is pretty useless.

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    Ingo
    Squad 3285 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 9:05 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 9:05 p.m.
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    How long will it take Claude to enrich Uranium and build a bomb?

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2967 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 9:58 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 9:58 p.m.
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    Hasn't it already?

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    Lessred
    Squad 2536 posts
    18 Sep 2026, 10:04 p.m. 18 Sep 2026, 10:04 p.m.
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    I asked if it would kill me quickly when it took over the world as I was polite to it.

    It said it couldn't make any promises.

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