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tricky
25 Apr 2023
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    Sean
    Squad 2470 posts
    28 Jun 2026, 9:54 a.m. 28 Jun 2026, 9:54 a.m.
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    Vote Quimby!

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2821 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 2:05 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:05 p.m.
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    Just had a quick look at the BBC summary of Burnham speech.

    Didn't Osbourne say (and try) similar devolutionary things?

    And got lambasted for it from other parties?

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    Simon
    Squad 8210 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 2:28 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:28 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Didn't Osbourne say (and try) similar devolutionary things

    "Northern Powerhouse". What did that actually consist of? Was it just baubles, like Johnson's levelling up?

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    JimShady
    Squad 4807 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 2:29 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:29 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Just had a quick look at the BBC summary of Burnham speech.

    Didn't Osbourne say (and try) similar devolutionary things?

    And got lambasted for it from other parties?

    Yeah but he didn't make some hilarious gags about running shorts, and that's what the public wants.

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    tricky
    Board 8481 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 2:30 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:30 p.m.
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    I don't like this narrative that you can't say, or adopt, ideas that are contrary to a position that you, or (even more bonkers) a loosely aligned cluster of people with a convenient label to whom you are associated with, previously espoused or decried. Otherwise how could the tories have been able to so fulsomely adopted fascism (or any change in relation to subsequent bad experience redressed)? How can change response to changing conditions? You have been persuaded this is a thing by an establishment that has prospered (at your cost) for centuries by stunting change and broader thinking.

    Not that I'm saying these ideas are, or are not, good ones. I just deeply dislike the intellectual merit of a fallacy whataboutery objection.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2821 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 5:39 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 5:39 p.m.
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    I'm not sure I understand all of that.

    But anyway I was just amused by the fact that an idea can be both good and bad depending on who proposed it.

    Schrodingers idea.

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    Psychobel
    Squad 1220 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 8:08 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 8:08 p.m.
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    On a more important note, the room where Burnham did his presser is where we are having our client day in September.

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    JimShady
    Squad 4807 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 8:13 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 8:13 p.m.
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    Get out of town. That is insane.

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    Jake
    Squad 2411 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 8:16 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 8:16 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    But anyway I was just amused by the fact that an idea can be both good and bad depending on who proposed it.

    Isn't that 80% of party politics?

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2821 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 9:40 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 9:40 p.m.
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    You saying 80% of ideas in politics are shared by more than one party?

    Sounds a lot but I've got no stats to prove either way.

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    JimShady
    Squad 4807 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 9:52 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 9:52 p.m.
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    It's more like 63% I think.

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    Lessred
    Squad 2435 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 10:07 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 10:07 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    It's more like 63% I think.

    So we're rounding to whole numbers now? No precision. Games gone

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2875 posts
    7 Jul 2026, 1:01 p.m. 7 Jul 2026, 1:01 p.m.
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    Farage making 'a statement on my future in public life' at 2pm.

    I'd imagine he'll double-down on the 'establishment hit job' stuff and it'll play well to his Reform base, but the clips of Sky News doorstepping him at the airport earlier are amusing. He looked totally rattled and ready to punch the reporter in the face.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4561 posts
    7 Jul 2026, 1:05 p.m. 7 Jul 2026, 1:05 p.m.
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    I hope he goes full Evita / Eva Peron and bursts into 'don't cry for me, Clacton Essex'.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2875 posts
    7 Jul 2026, 1:12 p.m. 7 Jul 2026, 1:12 p.m.
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    It's also not been lost on folk today when he's been screaming about Leveson and 'serious consequences' for Sky after they apparently published exterior shots of his daughter's house (the same one he used to pose outside for PR pictures - so already in the public domain) that this is the bloke who rinsed the Henry Nowak case for all the political capital he could after the family had expressly asked for that not to happen.

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    Simon
    Squad 8210 posts
    7 Jul 2026, 1:28 p.m. 7 Jul 2026, 1:28 p.m.
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    Favourite seems to be that he'll call a by election. Not very clear on what that proves about the relevance of the allegations when he wants to be prime minister.

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