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tricky
25 Apr 2023
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    Sean
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    28 Jun 2026, 9:54 a.m. 28 Jun 2026, 9:54 a.m.
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    Vote Quimby!

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    29 Jun 2026, 2:05 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:05 p.m.
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    Just had a quick look at the BBC summary of Burnham speech.

    Didn't Osbourne say (and try) similar devolutionary things?

    And got lambasted for it from other parties?

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    Simon
    Squad 8104 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 2:28 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:28 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Didn't Osbourne say (and try) similar devolutionary things

    "Northern Powerhouse". What did that actually consist of? Was it just baubles, like Johnson's levelling up?

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    JimShady
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    29 Jun 2026, 2:29 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:29 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Just had a quick look at the BBC summary of Burnham speech.

    Didn't Osbourne say (and try) similar devolutionary things?

    And got lambasted for it from other parties?

    Yeah but he didn't make some hilarious gags about running shorts, and that's what the public wants.

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    tricky
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    29 Jun 2026, 2:30 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 2:30 p.m.
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    I don't like this narrative that you can't say, or adopt, ideas that are contrary to a position that you, or (even more bonkers) a loosely aligned cluster of people with a convenient label to whom you are associated with, previously espoused or decried. Otherwise how could the tories have been able to so fulsomely adopted fascism (or any change in relation to subsequent bad experience redressed)? How can change response to changing conditions? You have been persuaded this is a thing by an establishment that has prospered (at your cost) for centuries by stunting change and broader thinking.

    Not that I'm saying these ideas are, or are not, good ones. I just deeply dislike the intellectual merit of a fallacy whataboutery objection.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2769 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 5:39 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 5:39 p.m.
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    I'm not sure I understand all of that.

    But anyway I was just amused by the fact that an idea can be both good and bad depending on who proposed it.

    Schrodingers idea.

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    Psychobel
    Squad 1185 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 8:08 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 8:08 p.m.
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    On a more important note, the room where Burnham did his presser is where we are having our client day in September.

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    JimShady
    Squad 4767 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 8:13 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 8:13 p.m.
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    Get out of town. That is insane.

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    Jake
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    29 Jun 2026, 8:16 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 8:16 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    But anyway I was just amused by the fact that an idea can be both good and bad depending on who proposed it.

    Isn't that 80% of party politics?

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2769 posts
    29 Jun 2026, 9:40 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 9:40 p.m.
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    You saying 80% of ideas in politics are shared by more than one party?

    Sounds a lot but I've got no stats to prove either way.

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    JimShady
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    29 Jun 2026, 9:52 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 9:52 p.m.
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    It's more like 63% I think.

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    Lessred
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    29 Jun 2026, 10:07 p.m. 29 Jun 2026, 10:07 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    It's more like 63% I think.

    So we're rounding to whole numbers now? No precision. Games gone

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