• 24 Oct 2026, 1:19 p.m.

    Because not creating anything suggests your whole way of playing is shit, whereas not finishing them suggests it's down to individual moments of skill. Which you can work on in training and try to improve.

    If you aren't making anything AND not finishing anything it's two problems rather than one to try and fix.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 1:23 p.m.

    Looked like a dislocated shoulder.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 1:39 p.m.

    But then if we don’t create much maybe we’d be tighter and actually harder to score against rather than giving goals away each week.

    Either way, we need to score to win games and the current attackers are showing they aren’t uk to that.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 2:09 p.m.

    We are pretty good at the back already no? Yesterday was a fuck-up from Milenkovic and last week it was a massive deflection.

    That might change a bit with Chelsea and City coming up, though they are too much for most teams defences.

    Basically my opinion is, at the moment, there's very little wrong. We should be much further up the table than we are. I am trying to keep faith that good performances will surely lead to points. It would be really nice to try and stop being an insane football club by sacking managers every time things are going perfectly. It's a sure fire way to relegation.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 2:47 p.m.

    Credit where it's due, Chris.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 2:47 p.m.

    You're right, we really should have stuck with Ange.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 3:30 p.m.

    Credit him with the dimmest possible take? That's why we have suttoning.

    Mouth works, but legs don't? Never mind, chuck him in and have him run on his jawbone.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 3:32 p.m.

    Comparing Glasner to Ange is certainly one take.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 3:38 p.m.

    ...my take on this is that we are creating so many chances because Delap is working so hard in the build-up. Which we need really, because we don't have a nine man advantage that can allow for a goal hanger. So he's acting as target man, he's running defences from deep and getting off shots, running channels, linking up in breaks....it's hard to be doing those first phase combative things and finding space for tap-ins.....with our shape we should expect those sort of opportunities to come from second phase back post stuff from wide forwards or wing backs - like the goal last night.

    That sort of player tends not to be especially proficient as a tap in merchant. Not least because it's hard to be in more than one place at a time, but given what we are mostly up against we need that sort of player.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 3:54 p.m.

    I was referring to the scoreline, but I still don't disagree with his view on Wood. It doesn't have to be him or Delap, I'd have no objection to him replacing Ndoye.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 3:55 p.m.

    That wasn't what I was doing, and I think you know that. I was demonstrating that your simplistic idea of "don't sack managers because they'll come good eventually" is, well, simplistic.

  • 24 Oct 2026, 6:22 p.m.

    Indeed. You have to look at performances, which you don't seem to want to do.

  • 25 Oct 2026, 12:21 p.m.

    That's fine as far as it goes, a good example being the speed with which Brighton jettisoned Sami Hyppia, but if it is every single manager that you do that with (which seems to be the Forest way) you've got massive problems

  • 25 Oct 2026, 1:37 p.m.

    The problem isn't the speed with which we fire managers, it's the consistency with which we hire bad ones.

  • 25 Oct 2026, 4:29 p.m.

    I think that's correct...but you need to consider some devii in the detail.

    • Most managers, at a point in time, are not going to be immediately transformative. They will all have a bad spell. If you sack them all immediately you wont see the good bits, and if that's your modus operandi it will be an ever decreasing circle.....and within this most managers/coachs don't really work or are largely meh....ultimately it comes down to playing resources available...unless someone is a massive fuckup (like ange).
    • Having said that, how do you spot potential good bits, rather than terrible fit that's never going to work? There's no failsafe method, but performance levels is normally a clue.
    • ...but players can buy in, and yet the coach still be a hideous fit for the resources at his disposal. He may get a tune out of them, but it not to be up to the level that you are at, or need.

    I'm not sure that there's a way to tell. ND was certain that Mr Megoo was the right standards, values, and character to bring success. I'd reckon my eyes worked better than his on that one...but I would have stayed with Houghton when you all wanted change...so your eyes all worked better on that one.

    I don't think you can ever say for sure what is the right way forward...and even if you think your decision is justified by the outcome you might actually have got a better result doing the other thing....you will never know.

    Anyway, as much as I personally don't like this mangers game plan, I'm pretty convinced sticking with him gets a better outcome in the mid and long term. I also think there are signs to be optimistic about the short term.

  • 25 Oct 2026, 5:21 p.m.

    I am not a massive fan of Glasner but sticking with him is the best option. The chances have been fine but his stubborness to change anything makes me absolutely mental. I am still convinced that milenkovic should have been subbed. Not because of his fuck up but because he just completely gave up and that is not a good look at all. I also summised that maybe he was still less than 100%.

    We had ipswich on the ropes but didn't seem to press the advantage by any means at all. No pro-active subs, no change of formation. It was inevitable that we would just end the game in a stalemate. So with Oliver and his Austrian ways it either works or it doesn't. So if we score first and then again, we will be fine. Assuming VAR is switched off. If we let the other team hang around after they have made adjustments then it will inevitably lead t disappointment. This is why i really liked Vitor.

    Anyway, we are stuck with him and we are playing fine. I actually think Delap is not the problem at all. I think the formation rigidity can be countered and we are not fluid in our thinking. Also N'Doye who has pictures of Glasner's children is allowed to continue to sit down a lot because no-one seems to be telling him to man up and stop fucking whining. Manager's and their pets... (as an aside it happens with all of them).

    Glasner is right about McAtee being more effective in the middle but we are short one player in the middle and other teams exploit this. I wonder if a change will happen against Citeh? Ha I am having a laugh.

    Chicago: Living in purgatory.

  • 25 Oct 2026, 6:03 p.m.

    Milenkovic has been mentally off his game for a year now.

  • 25 Oct 2026, 6:18 p.m.

    Don't let him hear you say that, he'll mistime an attempt to stab you.