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Psychobel
25 Apr 2023
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    Loafer
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    7 Dec 2023, 11:31 a.m. 7 Dec 2023, 11:31 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    (to allow in things like Kings of the Wild Frontier).

    Wait, what is the weak track on that masterpiece?

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    tricky
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    7 Dec 2023, 11:44 a.m. 7 Dec 2023, 11:44 a.m.
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    @Loafer has written:

    Wait, what is the weak track on that masterpiece?

    What day is it?

    On a bad day, how are you feeling about Making History?

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    Loafer
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    7 Dec 2023, 11:58 a.m. 7 Dec 2023, 11:58 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:
    @Loafer has written:

    Wait, what is the weak track on that masterpiece?

    What day is it?

    On a bad day, how are you feeling about Making History?

    I have just reminded myself. I quite like the apache-style aiyi-ai chorus...

    The 2004 edition has a track called the Omelette from Outer Space

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    Loafer
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    7 Dec 2023, noon 7 Dec 2023, noon
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    Disappointingly it is just a version of Ants Invasion

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    noodle
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    7 Dec 2023, 12:20 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 12:20 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    That made me think...what's on your list (I suspect it's rather personal)? Albums were typically in part experimental, part filler....so an album doesn't become a bad one because of a weak track...but when there isn't one, it's quite something.

    I nominate ‘Debut’ by Bjork. It is very much part-experimental, but there is nothing I would ever skip, nothing that outstays it’s welcome, nothing that isn’t integral. The only track that doesn’t quite fit perfectly is ‘Play Dead’ which is independently magnificent and wasn’t part of the original record anyway. It is a repulsively good album and having it be your first is, frankly, indecent.

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    favorite 1

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    Psychobel
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    7 Dec 2023, 12:25 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 12:25 p.m.
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    Criticising Kings of the Wild Frontier is fighting talk

    Top 5 Artists:
    HotWax
    Doom
    Ditz
    Just Mustard
    Hawkwind

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    tricky
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    7 Dec 2023, 1:10 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 1:10 p.m.
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    @noodle has written:

    I nominate ‘Debut’ by Bjork. It is very much part-experimental, but there is nothing I would ever skip, nothing that outstays it’s welcome, nothing that isn’t integral. The only track that doesn’t quite fit perfectly is ‘Play Dead’ which is independently magnificent and wasn’t part of the original record anyway. It is a repulsively good album and having it be your first is, frankly, indecent.

    Totally agree! Debut is, and always has been, on my list as a definite. There are also some personal touchstones that connect it to me as a moment in time, as well as it being a complete musical masterpiece. I would even venture that the use of voice as instrument, with tone, phrasing, and tempo, is at a previously unattained height, if not unique (nod to kate bush).

    I am limiting the discussion to original albums as issued on vinyl. Although I am allowing contemporaneous variants (the export version with more tracks, was my personal copy of KotWF).

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    Russ
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    7 Dec 2023, 1:52 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 1:52 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    That made me think...what's on your list (I suspect it's rather personal)?

    Off the top of my head, and almost certainly not exhaustive:

    Tapestry - Carole King
    Rumours - Fleetwood Mac
    Born To Run - Bruce Springsteen
    Purple Rain - Prince
    Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon & Garfunkel
    Silent Alarm - Bloc Party
    Master Of Puppets - Metallica
    The Works - Queen
    Full Moon Fever - Tom Petty

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    tricky
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    7 Dec 2023, 1:55 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 1:55 p.m.
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    Some of mine that are definitely personal:

    Transformer
    East Side Story
    Graceland
    Back to Basics

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    Russ
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    7 Dec 2023, 2:01 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 2:01 p.m.
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    Transformer is a great choice but definitely personal, there is some filler in there. I'm not a huge fan of Simon's solo stuff but objectively speaking Graceland might appear on quite a few people's lists, I think. I tried to stick to "every song on this album is a legit classic" rather than "I love every song on this album", but I don't think many people would have The Works as Queen's best album, never mind one of the greatest albums ever made, so I wasn't immune to the purely personal choices.

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    tricky
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    7 Dec 2023, 2:20 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 2:20 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    there is some filler in there

    There is not. Every song contributes, with a purpose.

    based on a totally personal interpretation.

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    Russ
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    7 Dec 2023, 2:27 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 2:27 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:
    @Russ has written:

    there is some filler in there

    There is not. Every song contributes, with a purpose.

    based on a totally personal interpretation.

    But that isn't really the category we're discussing, which is "albums without a single weak song". I would argue that in order to satisfy that you need to be able to take any song in isolation and it be a banger, if it only works in the context of the album then it's probably a weak song. And while I do love Transformer and think it's a magnificent album, I put it to you that New York Telephone Conversation is not in any way, shape or form good.

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    tricky
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    7 Dec 2023, 2:29 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 2:29 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    we're discussing, which is "albums without a single weak song".

    Who gets to decide? Jacob Rees-Mogg?

    @Russ has written:

    I put it to you that New York Telephone Conversation is not in any way, shape or form good.

    Well. We are all wrong, most of the time.

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    Russ
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    7 Dec 2023, 2:59 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 2:59 p.m.
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    As a result of this conversation I am now listening to Pop Said by The Darling Buds for the first time in many years. A legit contender for the "personal choice" section.

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    tricky
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    7 Dec 2023, 3:09 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 3:09 p.m.
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    Yep. Although they are all personal choices...the notion of some sort of universal agreement on the merit of pop songs is bonkers.

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    chicago
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    7 Dec 2023, 4:03 p.m. 7 Dec 2023, 4:03 p.m.
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    Oh shit. I agree with Russ. The world is ending. Queen-the works is an absolute classic.

    Chicago: Feeling weird.

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