You don't win nothing with kids

Check out the comments on the bbc story today praising the cheating scouse cnuts for never giving up. Jeez.

Isn't that where the VaR should help? Surely Tierney could just have checked with him?

Almost every refereeing decision is a matter of opinion. Should the Omobamidele incident have been a pen? Should their similar one have been? "In the opinion of the referee..." neither were clear enough to give, so they weren't pens.

What makes me still fuming this morning about this decision is that no opinion is necessary. The rules say what should happen. The ref must abide by the rules. There is one ref and two linos and a fourth official and VAR and between them they got the rules wrong to our massive disadvantage. And not even in the heat of the moment but in a break in play when there is every opportunity to check what should be done.

As Jenas says, if we restart with an uncontested drop ball to us, the end of the game totally changes. The ref has piled additional pressure on us which (our bad) we didn't cope with. Sickener.

Var is strictly limited in its scope because they don’t want someone in an office in Brackley making all the decisions.

We aren't talking about all the decisions though, we are talking about a quick word in the ear when a factual error has been made.

As Tricky notes, maybe (and certainly Huddersfield fans point this out on the socials), these decisions are evening things out for us!

And if the ref, 4th official and linesmen don’t talk to each other, what’s the point of having them all mic’d up? It’s incompetence.

Liverpool fans have crapped on about the similar case in the first half. But this shows its not the same: twitter.com/SabriLamouchi11/status/1764233837955985507?t=nTe7GOcXkfa58xAckAol1g&s=19

Firstly, as I'd thought at the time, we have possession (the last two touches are Forest, even if the ball is probably going to a Liverpool player) and it's in the area.

IIRC as soon as the ref blew a Liverpool player took it upon himself to get the ball and send it back to the keeper. I think the ref just did the easy, lazy, thing and carried on under the impression that the ball was in the right place. Maybe that was canny play by the Liverpool player. Maybe our guys need to be alert.. possession is 9/10ths etc.. if CHO had picked up the ball and held onto it then the ref may have had to engage his brain and work out what was supposed to happen.

Players routinely tell the referee what they think he should be doing, and object when he doesn’t. They point out things they think he missed. They also lie, obscure, and make their own mistakes. It’s all very normal. If all the players weren’t perpetually trying to con the ref then I’d be somewhat more critical when he get’s relatively innocuous things wrong or misses what’s going on in the areas he’s not focussed on at any given time.

If he thinks there may be a head injury worth stopping play for, he’s possibly not looking at everything else that is going on or thinking about what rule 14b (9) says about the restart and making a note of who last touched it. He should get that right, but I am saying that if one team acts like they should have it, and the other doesn’t, there’s a fair chance he’s going to let things run on in that vein. Just like he might assume a player hasn’t moved his free-kick foam if nobody is acting like a player has moved his free-kick foam. So players need to at least try and focus him on those little things.. as they can have big consequences. And players do do this, they always have, but on this occasion our players maybe didn’t.

Except MGW was telling the ref it was our ball and had his head in his hands when he ignored him.

So next excuse for Tierney being a corrupt sack of shit please.

Back to the comms point. Why didn’t the lino wave his flag or say something to the ref? Everybody bar the ref knew he’d dropped a bollock.