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What's annoying me today

tricky
2 May 2023
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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 9:56 a.m. 15 Feb 2024, 9:56 a.m.
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    @Jake has written:

    The problem with databases is that they rely on spreadsheets to import and export data,

    No.

    @Jake has written:

    and then if you want to do anything with the data extracted you're using spreadsheets then uploading a spreadsheet to the database again.

    Nope.

    @Jake has written:

    Also, us teachers are crap with databases.

    Affirmative.

    People are used to using spreadsheets. Spreadsheets work. If you always use a spreadsheet, you will only know how to do things with spreadsheets.

    If I want to quickly analyse a set of data, I'm going to use a spreadsheet. If I need to collect and manage large sets of data collaboratively, and periodically analyse elements of it I'm going to use a database (maybe using a spreadsheet an analysis tool). Spreadsheets can do all of this, so it's easier to use one (and only one personal skill set), but with large sets of data, that needs sharing and versioning, you will run into problems with spreadsheets (even if it's only the logistics of managing independent edits of 'current' versions).

    If you want to see what modern database tools, designed to replace the use of spreadsheets (where they are sub-optimal), you can do worse than look at grist, and specifically grist-electron as a stand alone application.

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    Nottingham_Florist
    Squad 541 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 11:22 a.m. 15 Feb 2024, 11:22 a.m.
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    I've got to the age of 55 not knowing how to create a spreadsheet and I'm not going to start now.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2647 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 11:42 a.m. 15 Feb 2024, 11:42 a.m.
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    Good game, the DMC's I Have Never.

    I've got to the age of 41 having never drunk a coffee and I'm not going to start now.

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    noodle
    Squad 999 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 11:45 a.m. 15 Feb 2024, 11:45 a.m.
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    I do a lot of stuff that would once have been spreadsheet based in PowerBI, building/tapping into SQL databases and the like. It’s great and lets me do stuff that is orders of magnitude more powerful than excel alone. All well and good.. except that nobody else in my team can understand how they work , and if I leave they my employer will struggle to find someone else who can maintain these things (not because I am special, but because proficiency with other tools, even relatively popular MS ones, is still quite rare in my profession).

    The fact that everyone knows how to use excel is why excel is often the right tool, even if it’s not the best one for the job. In most business settings better solutions require bringing in the IT pros to build out something.. but that tends to deliver robustness at the expense of creativity and flexibility. And those people are a limited resource.

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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 12:22 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 12:22 p.m.
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    Try. Grist.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2647 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 12:58 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 12:58 p.m.
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    Nicky?

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    Nottingham_Florist
    Squad 541 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 12:58 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 12:58 p.m.
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    Paul Grist is a terrific cartoonist. Look at this interplay of black and white.

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    PNG, 258.0 KB, uploaded by Nottingham_Florist on 15 Feb 2024.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2194 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 1:28 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 1:28 p.m.
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    Problem is most people still struggle to find the on button for their laptop.
    Unleashing grist on them will be a problem.

    And I know Tricky will be all over this, but most big corporations won't allow people to touch something like that.

    I find IT departments similar to train operators, everything would work fine if it wasn't for those bloody users (passengers).

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    Psychobel
    Squad 907 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 12:08 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 12:08 p.m.
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    Its much less complex than its made out, as you probably know.

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    Jeff_Albertson
    Squad 1231 posts
    21 Feb 2024, 4:13 p.m. 21 Feb 2024, 4:13 p.m.
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    Latest edition of Mic-d Up (behind the big/controversial VAR decisions with big Howard Webb) out yesterday, covering Md22-26 (includes Forest's games on Jan 30 v Arse, Feb 4 v Bornmuff, Feb 10 v Newcastle, Feb 17 v West Ham).
    We didn't feature.

    (In fact, not a single game/decision involving Forest has featured on any of the shows so far this season, which, given some of the decisions against us, is a fcukin joke).

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    Dean
    Squad 181 posts
    21 Feb 2024, 4:19 p.m. 21 Feb 2024, 4:19 p.m.
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    @Jeff_Albertson has written:

    Latest edition of Mic-d Up (behind the big/controversial VAR decisions with big Howard Webb) out yesterday, covering Md22-26 (includes Forest's games on Jan 30 v Arse, Feb 4 v Bornmuff, Feb 10 v Newcastle, Feb 17 v West Ham).
    We didn't feature.

    (In fact, not a single game/decision involving Forest has featured on any of the shows so far this season, which, given some of the decisions against us, is a fcukin joke).

    Too many difficult questions to answer if they did our games I suspect

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2194 posts
    21 Feb 2024, 4:41 p.m. 21 Feb 2024, 4:41 p.m.
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    Don't think I've seen it but presumably they only look at decisions that they got right, or at least can argue why they think they were right?

    Which if that's the case says it all about our two pen decisions.

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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    22 Feb 2024, 6:14 p.m. 22 Feb 2024, 6:14 p.m.
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    "Available in two sizes, our 3D Acrylic blocks are a truly unique way to show your support at home or in the office. Each Crystal is supplied in a high-quality satin lined presentation box."

    The constant stream of complete bollocks that nottinum forests are spamming me with, after attending the match on Saturday.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2214 posts
    23 Feb 2024, 1:40 p.m. 23 Feb 2024, 1:40 p.m.
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    Half-term wankbags at the barbers causing a sizeable queue because they all want a 'skin-fade, mate'. Takes forever...

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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    26 Feb 2024, 3:46 p.m. 26 Feb 2024, 3:46 p.m.
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    One of my servers in a datacentre has been suspended for "abuse". The suspension notice includes the abuse report for the server ip address.

    It is not the ip address of my server, which is not on the abuse list (I've checked), and appears to have been erroneously suspended because someone missed a "6" off the end of the actual ip address of the server that should have been suspended (which isn't one of mine).

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    Charlie
    Squad 1830 posts
    26 Feb 2024, 3:51 p.m. 26 Feb 2024, 3:51 p.m.
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    I hate it when that happens.

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