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Wet Ham Sandwich (A match thread)

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15 Feb 2024
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    JRs_Cigarette
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    18 Feb 2024, 11:50 a.m. 18 Feb 2024, 11:50 a.m.
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    If both sides think the ref was hopeless does he take that as a job well done?

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    Nottingham_Florist
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    18 Feb 2024, 12:15 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 12:15 p.m.
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    Something something Putin?

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    noodle
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    18 Feb 2024, 12:20 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 12:20 p.m.
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    @Nottingham_Florist has written:

    Just watched the Sky highlights and saw the disallowed goal that loops over Areola.

    Given as offside, and Yates is indeed standing on the goal line in an offside position as the ball is pinged in, then again as the ball bounces up, but he doesn't interfere with Areola's flap at the ball, doesn't touch the ball, doesn't block Areola's view of the ball. Why offside?

    I’m ok with it due to the quaint old idea that a guy standing right next to the goalkeeper is obviously fucking interfering with play. But I realise that the modern interpretation of things can go the other way (usually where the offside player is wearing a protected badge).

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    Russ
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    18 Feb 2024, 2:23 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 2:23 p.m.
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    @Nottingham_Florist has written:

    Just watched the Sky highlights and saw the disallowed goal that loops over Areola.

    Given as offside, and Yates is indeed standing on the goal line in an offside position as the ball is pinged in, then again as the ball bounces up, but he doesn't interfere with Areola's flap at the ball, doesn't touch the ball, doesn't block Areola's view of the ball. Why offside?

    He does interfere with Areola, he nudges him in the back.

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    Dave_Rave
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    18 Feb 2024, 2:29 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 2:29 p.m.
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    Yates shoving someone in the back? He never normally does that...

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    Simon
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    18 Feb 2024, 2:33 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 2:33 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:
    @Nottingham_Florist has written:

    Just watched the Sky highlights and saw the disallowed goal that loops over Areola.

    Given as offside, and Yates is indeed standing on the goal line in an offside position as the ball is pinged in, then again as the ball bounces up, but he doesn't interfere with Areola's flap at the ball, doesn't touch the ball, doesn't block Areola's view of the ball. Why offside?

    He does interfere with Areola, he nudges him in the back.

    Not sure he needed to.

    Have to say I did enjoy the referee, on the third occasion a West Ham player went down holding his head to stop play, making them send on the physio and the player to go off as a result. My view is that whenever play is stopped for a head injury, it should be mandatory for the player to get a full, off field, independent, concussion check. Would hardly ever happen then.

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    Ingo
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    18 Feb 2024, 3:47 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 3:47 p.m.
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    Good work Chic. If you could get us a result against Villa as well that would be grand.

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    Russ
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    18 Feb 2024, 6:06 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 6:06 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    CHO has now scored as many league goals for Forest as Chelsea.

    Also scored more goals this month than he has in any previous PL season.

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    tricky
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    18 Feb 2024, 6:26 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 6:26 p.m.
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    You can see his confidence in his body, and thus his fitness, returning. May have to review his 'can't run' status soon.

    Seems weird that unilaterally people seem to have said that Tavares was excellent yesterday. A good athlete, but still spent most of the afternoon chasing his touch, and I don't remember any (thing!) incisive or creative balls. I do remember defenders tracking him, waiting for him to hand over possession. Which he mostly did on the second or third touch.

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    des
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    18 Feb 2024, 6:47 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 6:47 p.m.
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    I can see why a manager might think he could make a player out of Tavares. And his athleticism probably suits playing behind CHO who I’d generally characterise as doing all the right things, but too slowly. So great news if the latter is building his confidence in his body.

    Not sure Tavares would be my pick though, especially once Aina is back.

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    Russ
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    18 Feb 2024, 6:52 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 6:52 p.m.
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    @des has written:

    I can see why a manager might think he could make a player out of Tavares. And his athleticism probably suits playing behind CHO who I’d generally characterise as doing all the right things, but too slowly. So great news if the latter is building his confidence in his body.

    Not sure Tavares would be my pick though, especially once Aina is back.

    Exactly my thought about Tavares - he brings the athleticism that CHO doesn't quite have. I don't need the full back to be whipping in half a dozen pinpoint crosses a game if he's got the speed and mobility to create space for CHO to do it. I think he was also helped by the fact that West Ham don't play with wingers, and that baldy fella at right back looked like he might struggle for pace against me.

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    Resident_Alien
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    18 Feb 2024, 7:23 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 7:23 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    I think he was also helped by the fact that West Ham don't play with wingers, and that baldy fella at right back looked like he might struggle for pace against me.

    Coufal and Zouma did not look comfortable at all. Zouma resorted to rugby tackling on several occasions and, imo, was lucky he was only booked the once.

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    Psychobel
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    19 Feb 2024, 9:32 a.m. 19 Feb 2024, 9:32 a.m.
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    The thing that worries me most about Tavares is the defending bit which for a defender is quite important. He's going to come up against Garnacho soon which might turn into a lesson. Mind you, if the crowd starts the "Cry in a minute..." chant early, that should sort out the cartoon faced sulky cunt.

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    Simon
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    19 Feb 2024, 9:37 a.m. 19 Feb 2024, 9:37 a.m.
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    @Psychobel has written:

    The thing that worries me most about Tavares is the defending bit which for a defender is quite important. He's going to come up against Garnacho soon which might turn into a lesson. Mind you, if the crowd starts the "Cry in a minute..." chant early, that should sort out the cartoon faced sulky cunt.

    Will be interesting to see if Tavares stays as first choice now Aina is available.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    19 Feb 2024, 11:34 a.m. 19 Feb 2024, 11:34 a.m.
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    twitter.com/OfficialFFTV/status/1759516994842362050?t=a1cU2dC7JCInTagLtZzcDw&s=19

    Surely you don't pair an inexperienced ref with a first time VAR guy?

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    tricky
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    19 Feb 2024, 12:28 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 12:28 p.m.
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    For me the issue is less how experienced they are, and more whether their eyes actually work.

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