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Wet Ham Sandwich (A match thread)

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15 Feb 2024
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    chicago
    Squad 2552 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 5:09 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 5:09 p.m.
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    Must win., (Tricky loves that one…).

    Coming off a 6-0 tonking at the Arse. Wet ham welcome back some players which is annoying. Pacquetta likely back. Maybe we won’t pass to him like Bruno.

    Must not give away set pieces (see Ryan Yates….)

    Attack, attack attack. Don’t give lord Prowse or Kunis the ball then we win.

    Is Felipe able to play now so he can head the ball?

    Can we keep a clean sheet?

    Can we fuck.

    3-1 to the Mighty Reds. (Although the smart money could be another 3-2)

    Chicago: Rageless and hopeful.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 6:27 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 6:27 p.m.
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    No AFCON finalists sez Nuno. So probably unchanged?

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    Jim7
    Squad 1030 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 8:04 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 8:04 p.m.
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    Yates for another edition of football-whack-a-mole then

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2188 posts
    15 Feb 2024, 11:46 p.m. 15 Feb 2024, 11:46 p.m.
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    Another 3-2 loss for me.

    Rumblings of Nuno out start.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 2975 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 8:59 a.m. 16 Feb 2024, 8:59 a.m.
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    Whatever the result I expect we'll be pissed off with the refereeing and VAR again.

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    Jim7
    Squad 1030 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 9:42 a.m. 16 Feb 2024, 9:42 a.m.
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    Have we given anyone a right tonking since we got back to the Big Table? I don’t think so. Even Sheff U and Luton have at least once. It’s time.

    4-0 Forest.
    Nuno for Supreme Leader! Nuno out!

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 10:10 a.m. 16 Feb 2024, 10:10 a.m.
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    @Jim7 has written:

    Have we given anyone a right tonking since we got back to the Big Table? I don’t think so. Even Sheff U and Luton have at least once. It’s time.

    Was thinking last night that the last comfortable, "sit back and enjoy the last 20 minutes with no stress" game, aside from the two League cup games last season at Blackburn and Grimsby (which I don't really count), was Swansea in April 22. Luton should have been but ...

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    Ingo
    Squad 2646 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 12:07 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 12:07 p.m.
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    ...Joe Worrall came on.

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 1:31 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 1:31 p.m.
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    ....... the manager decided to change tactics with 15 minutes to go and invite Luton to throw everything at us. Which, as the league is now well aware, is exactly what Luton want to do.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2188 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 2 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 2 p.m.
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    I see lots of talk online that we are playing better football now than under Cooper.

    It is perhaps nicer to watch as we attack a bit more and score goals, but that has come at the expense of conceding 2-3 goals per game.

    Seems to me it is better in the fact that losing a game 3-2 is a better watch than losing a game 1-0 (not always but often better watch).

    But ultimately it's a loss.

    We just need to stop conceding cheaply and we'll be fine seems to miss the point that we can't keep the attacking intent and also stop conceding. Players we have just don't seem good enough.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 2:10 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 2:10 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I see lots of talk online that we are playing better football now than under Cooper.

    It is perhaps nicer to watch as we attack a bit more and score goals, but that has come at the expense of conceding 2-3 goals per game.

    Cooper reacted a number of times to our inabliity to defend by shutting up shop and playing an extra defensive player. Nuno hasn't done that (yet?) but that's only ok if he can sort out the defence with the current balance of players.

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    Jim7
    Squad 1030 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 3 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 3 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    but that's only ok if he can sort out the defence with the current balance of players

    Not if he keeps picking Montiel and Tavares to 'defend'

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    JimShady
    Squad 3846 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 3:13 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 3:13 p.m.
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    Listening to the latest Forest Focus today, they were discussing that we have the best "expected goals conceded" outside of something like Arsenal and Man City over the last six games. As in, strange as it may seem to say, our defense is actually doing ok. It's set pieces and amazing goals that are doing us in. Which does feel about right. I can't recall getting cut open many times.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2188 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 4:11 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 4:11 p.m.
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    Isn't an alternative that with a normal defence these chances are low xG but our defence/keeper is so shit that the xG for same chance against Forest is much higher than other teams.

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    tricky
    Board 7321 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 4:17 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 4:17 p.m.
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    A teams xG is wrong, if it doesn't reflect the number of goals they score. it's just a pompous derivative of "Oh my god, my granny could have scored that".

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    JimShady
    Squad 3846 posts
    16 Feb 2024, 4:21 p.m. 16 Feb 2024, 4:21 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    Listening to the latest Forest Focus today, they were discussing that we have the best "expected goals conceded" outside of something like Arsenal and Man City over the last six games. As in, strange as it may seem to say, our defense is actually doing ok. It's set pieces and amazing goals that are doing us in. Which does feel about right. I can't recall getting cut open many times.

    I guess. But it's better than being at the bottom of the expected goals conceded metric i.e. you're giving your opposition shit loads of easy chances every game.

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