US Election 2024

I can't see Trump and Musk staying together for long.

Is there a chance this will push us closer to a more integrated deal with the EU to counter the tariffs in the US?

Clutching at straws in natural in a time of crisis.

On the flip side how do you feel about an economic crash and war with China?

Yeah, I hope his personality disorder will prevent him from doing much more than running things down, and lining his pockets, much like Boris Johnson did here.

Not keen to be honest.

Fuckety fuck. Just when your faith in humanity starts to return, you are reminded again that people, in general, are cunts

Whilst Trump should be in prison for...SOMETHING I always felt that the Dems gender agenda - attempts to repeal Title IX, men in womens prison, pro transing of kids etc...might just piss enough Americans off to make it close.
I still didn't expect him to win though.

There's been a lot of elections this year and most of them have swung pretty decisively against the incumbent. Mostly, probably, because of the economic fall out over covid and the ukraine war.

Kamala didn't really offer any kind of break with Biden - unbelievable that she couldn't name anything she'd have done differently.

Trump's agenda will fail. Musk can't cut a third of government expenditure. Trump won't replace income tax with tariffs. I suspect that Ukraine will have to negotiate a settlement with Russia but how else was it ever going to end?

Trump is a bad, bad person and was and will be a bad president and the supreme court will now be insanely right wing for the rest of my life, because he'll probably replace the two aging justices with people in their 40s, but those are, mostly, problems that a foreign country has brought on itself.

I think this characterisation is a real problem. We talk about the gap between top and bottom, but the gap between middle and bottom (in experience and expectation) is a real problem. Somehow, those groups need to get over pointing the finger at each other and actually meet and mingle, so that bridges can be built and some common ground found, because if those groups keep fighting the door will always be open for the extremes to exploit.

People like Trump and some Tories in this country (ie the rich establishment) will always try to create division between the middle and the bottom. This leads to people in the middle thinking they have much more in common with the people at the top - whereas the reality is that if you are even a relatively high earner and in the top 5% or so, you are much close to the bottom in real terms than you are to the top. Much closer to sleeping on the streets than you are to having a private jet. If people understood this the world would be a better place.

For the Democrats, this will surely fall squarely at the feet of Biden and his insistence on seeking a second term. The past four years should have been about identifying a solid succession candidate and promoting that person to the country.

The fact it took a very public cognitive failure during a live TV debate for him to be persuaded to stand aside meant Harris had a standing start when she, or someone else, could have been in full campaign mode at that stage.

There are clearly deeper problems for the party. Trump should have been a gift for them.

I dunno. The Dems seem pretty bad at their job, but Harris ran a perfectly decent campaign and had more than enough time for anyone paying attention to understand the choice on offer. I’m inclined towards the view that a lot of people are awful and want what Trump is selling (and their media is more than happy to advertise). This one is firmly on everyone who voted for him and everyone who was happy to stay home and let it all happen. Simply not being that should have been more than enough so I’m not really sure what the Dems could have done. But, I guess, I really just don’t understand that country at all.. and my current mood is that it can go fuck itself.

Yes. Biden should never have stood for re-election. It was a joke. Perhaps a proper process with a longer runway would have helped. But it’s staggering that Trump has commanded so much of the vote. Democracy never fails to disappoint. Politics always finds a way to eat its own kidneys.

Worryingly, this has not even been close. It’s far, far worse than 2016. Dems lost the popular vote, lost every swing state, held much narrower margins in true blue areas, had lower black and Latino votes, young men overwhelmingly favouring Trump. The EC will be overwhelming. Republicans have a majority in both houses with some real low life’s surrounding Trump. No guard rails and a promise to destroy the institutions that might protect the constitution. Trump and his Project 2025 Bro’s are unleashed. Buckle up or hunker down.

WE….ARE……SO……FUCKED!!!!!!!

Guess I have to buy some technology before Taiwan falls…

Chicago: Depressed isn’t the word for it….

I am so, so sorry for you. I have ordered industrial quantities of humble pie. King Cunt Farage and Queen Cuntess Braverman are already all over the airwaves gloating like chimps. You will have so much more than that. Suggest you focus on Forest, music, film, whisky, the great outdoors. Anything but the news.

But console yourself that at least you are a legal, straight, white male. They won’t come for you first.

This is true. The Hispanics next door to you have that covered.