• trickylens
    a year ago

    I would see him as a different sort of player (ie I don't see better as a linear measure...there are more than one axis). He moves about more than wood, and can do more football not just in straight lines than T. If you are playing higher, pressing higher, I think Nketieh can join up more, and give you more off the ball.

    Anyway, there's all manner of reasons that I don't see it happening at all.

  • jamesobhelp_outline
    a year ago

    My impression of Nketiah is a bit skewed by the disappointing loan he had at Leeds in the championsip a few years ago. What he has done since then has been in fits and bursts in a generally excellent squad/team who have created a lot and dominated games a lot, so I'd say, like Gimenez, he has still to prove he can consistently cut it at premier league level (unlike say Wood, who has certainly done that - totally agree they are very different players though, Nketiah is a bit more like Brennan Johnson). It's going to be a lot of money whichever one we get for a player who will have it to prove. It makes one realise how good a signing Wood was in retrospect (and why he is on the biggest wages at the club).

  • jamesobhelp_outline
    a year ago

    Not impossible we get both of them and flog Awoniyi to Saudi Arabia. That would be very us.

  • Mangetoutpanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    All totally fair. I'm just looking at it based on how we currently play best.
    I think one of my concerns is that he's very pricey for what he is, as well as the unsettling of players.

  • trickylens
    a year ago

    Totally take the point. But equally, presumably you buy different players so that you can play differently. Where differently is hopefully better?

    These are not uniform conforment productive units. Apart from stat variance, there's also differences in play that produce less measurably obvious outcomes. One of the things that saw Dutch football come to prominence was the understanding of space (one of the contentions of the brilliant book 'brilliant orange' was that was related to the countries lack of space). Part of that is how the movement of players open up space - something hitherto unexpressed by statistical analysis.

    Anyway, better movement opens up all sorts of things that you might not know that you are missing.

    I still think it highly unlikely that he ends up here.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    We seem to be getting linked with Montiel on a perm quite a bit. Not sure why, he wasn't great last season.

  • Mangetoutpanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    Maybe the Neco offer is too good to decline

  • chicagopanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    Montiel not coming. Gimenez and Nketiah being considered. I think like HIghlander there can be only one. (Unless Nuno doesn't like Taiwo, which based on body language on Saturday could be the case, which would be a shame.).

    Wolves in for Ramsdale. SO I am guessing they are flogging Sa who I also like...

    Chicago: Considering all the permutations.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    This was my thinking

  • jamesobhelp_outline
    a year ago

    Signing Montiel would be insane. He was worse than Gino Padula. An absolute liability. Nobody in their right mind at the club could think he was good enough to be our first choice right back after last year. If we are signing him it must be to do with Olympiakos.

  • jamesobhelp_outline
    a year ago

    McTominay to Fulham is off as they have signed Sander Berge instead. With Danilo's injury I could see us going for McTominay on a loan perhaps as they want his wages off the books, he wants games and they like loaning us players.

  • jamesobhelp_outline
    a year ago

    Romano now saying we are bidding for both but will only sign one. Good negotiating strategy to be messaging that.

  • Ingopanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    Tricky, would it be much grief to make him his own board?

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    I'm happy to chip in a few quid for an AI bot that he can talk to.

  • trickylens
    a year ago

    I don't get Montiel. I just see a player not good enough for the level, in a range of different ways. I get a sense that he is in part a component of keeping his mate. Who I don't really think is worth the cost of entry (good footballer, but I have physical concerns in the 'ship).

    The awful thing about free speech, is that to get it, you have to accept hearing things that you don't want to. Including from lying trolls. Talkback accepts contributions from those who demonstrate an interest in contributing (an ever dwindling number). Then it's over to the community to demonstrate it's value by arguing for the views and values that collectively it stands for.

    If nothing else we are a useful petri dish for how the wider social discourse can be hijacked by malign actors.

    While there is a demand for talkback, it's here, but everyone has to take a responsibility for that. It's not, and never has been, policy to wield a big stick to restrict freedoms. I will not tolerate an intention to consume my personal resources...and there's elements of that here, but tolerance is a to be valued over knee-jerk assertion of personal values. There is more value to 'show me' than to 'tell me'. When the demand no longer exists for those here to show each other where they stand, then I will terminate it.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    a year ago

    Who is his mate? Domínguez?

    I'd be shocked if we were so committed to a player we mostly use as a pressing winger (is that even a position?) that we are signing whole other players just to keep him happy.

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