Transfers in/out & rumours 2024

Does this all coincide with Gary Brazil leaving?

More coincides with promotion to the Premier League and Moronakis and his kid suddenly becoming much more interested..

I’m not sure of the point here?

Whilst I know we are also category 1, there may be a simple explanation that the Man Utd (and Man City/Liverpool/Arsenal) academy is just better. Better funded, better facilities, better coaches and a better draw for young players. So it is not surprising that they produce or sign players like Garnacho, Foden, Saka, TAA etc. Who is the best graduate of the Forest Academy in the last 20 years? Brennan?

We had loads of great academy graduates during the period when we were properly good and there was less movement of players across clubs and countries.

LOb hardly cost anything, same with Aguilera and Ui-Jo also has probably held his value. I think LOB, Bowler Ui-Jo will go and the other 3 will go out on loan again.

I thought Bowler was out of contract.

I think you're right. I think we're probably past the whole "stashing Championship players away in case we go down" stage now.

Now you've gone and done it...

I didn't say we won't or can't go down, but I suspect the club is no longer planning for the eventuality because we no longer have to worry about three year PSR cycles, and we'll have a full set of parachute payments to rely on.

Pity we still probably have to sell one of our best players to avoid PSR this summer.

We are still in the shit because the rules are set up this way. If they weren’t I suspect we wouldn’t have struggled as much.

Next season isn’t a given. We could still get a points reduction if we don’t shift someone by June 30th. That would mean starting on -points with Fester and Ever-nevergon.

This premier league lark is getting boring. I would like to watch some great football without having to deal with the feeling my club is getting shafted.

Chicago: Starting a whip around.

I would rather us sell Danilo than Murillo, MGW or even possibly CHO if we need to shift one of those for PSR. I like him, but he's probably the least critical to our team.

By whom? The PSR stuff is hardly a shocking twist, and it has been a strategic decision to gamble that we'll get enough points to escape relegation with a deduction.

Man City?

No, we are in the shit because we are poorly run.

Well the confusion over the promotion bonuses and the covid losses (which weren't allowed) plus the fact that even though we were a Premier League team everyone else was allowed to spend much more than us. Yeah, these rules seem fair for promoted teams. Look who went down last year? The Three promoted teams with less money to strengthen their squads. We didn't accept timidly that the others could get away with it. Loads of clubs spent oodles once promoted (see Wolves and Villa...)but it just happens that this season last season we were the shitheads. So, yeah the rules are set up to protect the big sides. On the other hand if we hadn't bought Sangare then we would have been fine, (that was a waste of money...).

We and other promoted clubs are generally set up to fail to protect the big clubs. If it wasn't, we would all be allowed the same allowable losses etc etc.

So yeah, the rules fucked us. As for badly run? Yes, I agree, but the caveat seems to be that teams who have rich owners are not allowed to compete with the big boys who can pick off the smaller Prem teams with good players because they can do pretty much what they want...

It's shit.

Although if we were run like Brighton I wouldn't complain. Although attrition seems to suggest they might be heading for the knackers yard too. Not financially but competitively.

Blah blah blah.

Chicago: Repeating ad nauseam.

It's not specifically victimising us though. And the year before, none of the promoted clubs went down. Does that mean the gap was smaller? No - 2 of the 3 were Prem teams who had had a bad season.
Sheff Utd went down because they made terrible decisions. Selling their best player before the season starts is ridiculous. Burnley went down arguably because the style of football only works when you have better players than your opponents (which might explain the Bayern appointment). Luton went down because they didn't/couldn't invest, by and large.
We stayed up partly because we could bring on 16M players as cover. We fcuked Luton because we played the rules. I don't think we'll get so lucky next year.

The top 6 are massively favoured, and playing catch-up is incredibly hard. And Chelsea play the rules better than anyone, just not the actual game.

This doesn't really stand up:

Fulham and Bournemouth were premier league veterans loaded up to the eyeballs with parachute cash.
We were an outlier who cheated to buck the trend.

This year Burnley were the worst of the modern era premier league clubs.
Sheff Utd and Luton (who competed gamely but were ultimately also crap) never stood a chance, because the league is bent.