• 2 Aug 2024, 3:51 p.m.

    There are plenty of girls sides now at junior level, but are much harder to find the younger they are.

    My 7 year old boy had a game today for his Villa development side at the Swindon Town academy, I was sure they had a girl playing for them but it turned out it wasn’t.. It does seem that girls don’t play with boys in the any of the professional club youth set ups.

  • 2 Aug 2024, 5:46 p.m.

    3v3 basketball as an Olympic sport is stupid.

  • 2 Aug 2024, 5:56 p.m.

    I just answered your question about rugby, is all. And you may be able to imagine that the Samoan, Tongan and Maori kids are significantly bigger than the others. They all just play non-contact.

    Still doesn't change the underlying issue that sometimes some people are bigger/faster/stronger than others, even ignoring the trans stuff.
    There's been a lot of interesting reading on this particular boxer too, and the questionable practices of the boxing association among other things.

  • 2 Aug 2024, 6:03 p.m.

    Don't think this is true. My son plays tight head prop at rugby and he looked like a rugby player prop even when he was born (as commented on by the obstetrician at the time).

    He's of a gentle nature, but without doubt when he was 5 and his older sister was 9 he could've snapped her in two.

  • 2 Aug 2024, 6:09 p.m.

    Isn't NZ junior rugby based on size and wight rather than age bandings?

  • 2 Aug 2024, 6:27 p.m.

    At some point I think so. My boy plays basketball, and is unfairly disadvantaged by being short. And rubbish.

    *I think it's when they start doing scrums, because it's literally dangerous.

  • 2 Aug 2024, 10:11 p.m.

    Amidst all the hoo-ha from all sides on X I found this thread an interesting read.

    x.com/Slatzism/status/1819427537740558848

    I must say that if thousands of people worldwide were accusing me of cheating but I could prove them wrong with a simple test I'd take it in a heartbeat.
    Unless I'd already failed said test.
    Twice.

  • 2 Aug 2024, 11:26 p.m.

    Or unless that isn't the rule and it denies something about your identity that will lead to further humiliation and ridicule.
    And the "you can always tell" worst people on the internet are right there.

  • 3 Aug 2024, 7:04 a.m.

    In other news what the bloody hell was she arseing about on that BMX at last night? We'd be above the States in the table if she had put in half the effort she did in the heats!

  • 3 Aug 2024, 10:04 a.m.

    Admiring Pinsent and Ian Thorpe for embracing a bit of old school post sporting career bloat.

  • 3 Aug 2024, 12:41 p.m.

    Yes, a very interesting read, but problematical in certain respects. The vast majority of trans people have either xx or xy chromosomes but decide at some point in their youth that they are in the wrong body, that they wish to live their lives as the other sex. If this were a case of a male transitioning to female and choosing to box as a woman, then I would have sympathy with those who want a ban (or at least for her to box with the men not the women).

    But that's not the case here. Khelif is an intersex person. She has chromosomal abnormalities and consequent genital abnormalities. She was assigned as female at birth and has always lived as a woman. She started boxing as a woman. She became a very good boxer. Now she hits so hard that other female boxers don't want to box her. Scarcely her fault. Certainly not cheating. She hasn't changed her sex. She is who she is.

  • 3 Aug 2024, 12:57 p.m.

    Cheating is a loaded term. It's an issue if she has an advantage inaccessible to anyone else within that classification. The classification has to come before the individual, it's a sport not a talent contest where 'the journey' wins the votes.

  • 3 Aug 2024, 1:30 p.m.

    Tricky when it comes to biology though right. Even within boxing you could say people with longer arms have an advantage that isn't accessible through effort or skill.

  • 3 Aug 2024, 1:59 p.m.

    It's tricky but if mr tickle could stick it to a t-rex isn't the classification we are discussing. Is dwarf boxing a thing? I would think so. If so can Russ play?

  • 3 Aug 2024, 2:16 p.m.

    Exactly. I'm not asking for Khelif to be treated separately because of a tough life story. The classification requirement here is that she should be a woman. And she's been told she's a woman by doctors, her parents, everybody else, since the day she was born. Meanwhile, the Boxing authorities now say that she's not a woman, the IOC say she is. It's almost as though there IS a problem in defining what a woman (or man) is. I think we might need to call on Judith Butler to help us out here.

  • 3 Aug 2024, 2:21 p.m.

    The main thing I always takeaway from these discussions is thank fuck I don't have to make or implement rules in this area.