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tricky
27 Apr 2023
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    tricky
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    27 Apr 2023, 4:46 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 4:46 p.m.
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    A curry is a spiced dish with a sauce.

    I made a carbonara variant, with a sauce, with chilli and garlic.

    Is that a curry? If not, what is a curry - and equally important, what isn't?

    Is "curry" just a lazy stupid ill defined concept for idiotic English people? Apart from when it's curry leaves, obviously.

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    Russ
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    27 Apr 2023, 5:51 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 5:51 p.m.
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    This is "is a hot dog a sandwich?" territory.

    I think a curry would reasonably be expected to have a greater amount of the kind of spices and herbs commonly associated with the dish than just chilli and garlic. After all, an arrabiatta isn't a curry. Nor is a five alarm wing sauce. I think you would probably expect to see some variation of nigella, mustard seeds, curry leaves, fenugreek, cumin, coriander, turmeric, ginger and cardamom, and probably less of the egg and aged cheese that are essential to a carbonara and far less commonly found in curry.

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    tricky
    Board 7316 posts
    27 Apr 2023, 6 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 6 p.m.
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    Associated with the dish, you say. What dish? This is exactly the problem. What is a curry, and what isn't?

    It's just an ill thought out broad brush stroke ill defined stupid annoyance.

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    JimShady
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    27 Apr 2023, 6:02 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 6:02 p.m.
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    When do shoes turn into boots? I'd say they have to cover your ankle, but I'm not sure it's a perfect science.

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    tricky
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    27 Apr 2023, 7:12 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 7:12 p.m.
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    So you're saying that football boots are not boots?

    We are going to need a things that are called a thing, but are not the thing, thread.

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    Russ
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    27 Apr 2023, 9:43 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 9:43 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    Associated with the dish, you say. What dish? This is exactly the problem. What is a curry, and what isn't?

    It's just an ill thought out broad brush stroke ill defined stupid annoyance.

    I already told you. There isn't a problem, other than one you choose to try and invent.

    A carbonara with chilli isn't a curry. It isn't really a carbonara either, FWIW.

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    tricky
    Board 7316 posts
    27 Apr 2023, 10:04 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 10:04 p.m.
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    Forget carbonara. What is a curry. What isn't.

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    Nottingham_Florist
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    27 Apr 2023, 10:14 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 10:14 p.m.
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    Any vaguely Anglo-Indian* influenced spicy, moist savoury dish.

    (*South Asian plus East Asian e.g. Thai)

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    Russ
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    27 Apr 2023, 10:27 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 10:27 p.m.
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    @Nottingham_Florist has written:

    Any vaguely Anglo-Indian* influenced spicy, moist savoury dish.

    (*South Asian plus East Asian e.g. Thai)

    Also Caribbean, albeit with a strong Asian influence. Also Far Eastern as Japan and China both have their own variants.

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    tricky
    Board 7316 posts
    27 Apr 2023, 11:57 p.m. 27 Apr 2023, 11:57 p.m.
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    Right. So what is being said is that it's a moist savoury dish, with spices, from all sorts of regions.

    It's not really a thing, is it?

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    Nottingham_Florist
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    28 Apr 2023, 6:49 a.m. 28 Apr 2023, 6:49 a.m.
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    I don't think I'd call a spicy Caribbean dish a curry but your view may vary.

    Certainly, it's a colonial word that doesn't bother to distinguish between various parts of "foreign".

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    Ingo
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    28 Apr 2023, 7:14 a.m. 28 Apr 2023, 7:14 a.m.
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    Why is a hotdog not a sandwich? Apart from a higher ear, eye and arse hole content it's essentially a hot pork cob.

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    Joanna
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    28 Apr 2023, 7:23 a.m. 28 Apr 2023, 7:23 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    Right. So what is being said is that it's a moist savoury dish, with spices, from all sorts of regions.

    It's not really a thing, is it?

    I had a quick Google (because I know you don't like using it) and gunk with some form of spice seems to be the main answer, although most websites agree it's generally Asian gunk.

    "curry, (from Tamil kari: “sauce”), in Western usage, a dish composed with a sauce or gravy seasoned with a mixture of ground spices that is thought to have originated in India and has since spread to many regions of the world"

    "A curry is a dish with a sauce seasoned with spices, mainly associated with South Asian cuisine · There are many varieties of curry"

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    tricky
    Board 7316 posts
    28 Apr 2023, 8:18 a.m. 28 Apr 2023, 8:18 a.m.
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    In lazy racist misanthropic Britain, 'an Indian' is synonymous with 'a curry'. Do Indians all eat curry (not in my experience)? Why would we do that?

    Is this really just a Victoria falls moment? Us cultural imperialists discovering something, and calling it the wrong name?

    We appear to have discovered spiced food. Yay for us. Put a flag in it for the emperor of the world.

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    Nottingham_Florist
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    28 Apr 2023, 9:56 a.m. 28 Apr 2023, 9:56 a.m.
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    If I use two slices of bread to make a sandwich and cut it diagonally in half, how many sandwiches do I have?

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    tricky
    Board 7316 posts
    28 Apr 2023, 9:57 a.m. 28 Apr 2023, 9:57 a.m.
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    This is an excellent question. I might not get any work done today.

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