The Race to Twelve Points

Couldn't find this thread, so thought it worth starting.
This season, Wolves and Southampton look to be current favourites, with Wolves' only point coming against Forest (of course).
In classical style, Wolves awarded GON and his team shiny new contracts before the season started (I'd be interested to see a study of how many managers actually see out their contract), and they look awful. However, it'd be surprising (to me at least) if they didn't manage to get to 12 by the new year.

Southampton look a different proposition. Our two wind so far have come against the team at the top and the one at 19th, avoiding bottom on goal difference. Watching that match, it looked like they could have played until midnight without scoring. It doesn't really look like they've improved much since then. Burt, Shirley even they are able to reach the magical number?

Think Moyes was a rare example last summer and Pep may do the same next summer but obviously contracts are usually just a compensation benchmark for when the manager is sacked (or poached).

Edit: on the wider point, I don't think Southampton will stick with Martin and they'll end up with at least 20 points.

Didn't Klipperty see his out?

Wenger? S'ralex?

Klopp signed a contract until 2026: www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37627935/jurgen-klopp-signs-liverpool-contract-extension-2026

The other two might have (+Hodgson, I think) but those are retirements when the manager had run out of steam. Still very rare.

Colin at Blunts?

I suppose we're not counting contracted caretakers like Rangnick or Lampard's second stint at Chelsea?

No, only those that signed a long term contract and were then sacked. For further clarity, a contract extension rather than a Chelsea style sixteen year contract on signing.

Curbishley at Charlton? There must be others who refused to sign an extension to take up a perceived better gig?

No, he just had enough after turning down the extension. West Ham came calling later as I recall
I was trying to think of another scenario

Surely Southampton won’t let Russell Martin beat Derbys record?

I can't decide if the name 'Russell Martin' sounds like 1960s racing driver hero or a mundane staple character off (of) Neighbours.

Wolves have fucked it and then VAR might save it but then again surely not interfering with play?

Citeh win and wolves stay on one point.

Wolves gave them a hell of a game. Don’t think they will go down if they keep O’Neil. If they don’t they will be in trouble. Cunha is a smashing player. Bit of a weird decision to take him off on 64.

Wolves will definitely get to 12 points.

Chicago: Entertained

They don’t give the ref the VAR of Silva backing into the keeper. Of course he’s interfering.

Other way round that’s ruled out.

Having seen it. I think Silva was interfering. Yep wolves got fucked.

Oh well it’s wolves… Although I would be cross if it was us.

Chicago: Giggling and cringing.

Amazing that they didn’t show the whole action to the ref when he was called to the screen. Instead they started from when Silva had already stepped away and was crouching so he wasn’t impeding the goalie’s line of sight.
It was only after they’d kicked off that sky showed the whole thing and you could clearly see Silvia’s nudge on Sa.
Definitely wrong but not the ref’s fault at all. VAR fucks it up again.
But it definitely works for us so fuck wolves.

But at the point that he interferes with the keeper he’s not offside, because it’s directly from the corner. He only becomes offside once Stones heads it. And they clearly didn’t think the interference was worthy of a free kick on its own.

I’m ok with that being given.