The managerial merry-go-round

It's interesting that Todd is supportive of Ange (I assume) because they are both from Oz.

I (and I think it's fairly widespread) wouldn't give a fuck about an English manager overseas, unless it was with a Forest connection maybe, say Cooper.

Todd's always had a thing about Australia not being taken seriously enough as a footballing nation.

Their natural level is upper mid table, and not winning anything. Basically a boring, inoffensive, mediocre club.

7th highest wage bill in the country.

I don't think I agree with really any of this. No matter how good or otherwise they are they always try to play an entertaining brand of football, they have at many points been highly offensive over the 40ish years that I've been watching football, and they're capable of finishing anywhere in the league in any given season which is not IMO mediocre.

I'm supportive of him because he's a winner - something the English seem to be allergic to.

No one gives a fuck about an English manager overseas, because they're useless. Even in England, before Eddie Howe led Newcastle to the League Cup this season, the last English manager to win a major trophy was Harry Redknapp at Portsmouth, 17 years ago. No English manager has ever won the Premier League. No English manager has won a European trophy since Bobby Robson, 28 years ago.

In the 17 years since Redknapp won the FA Cup, Ange won a premiership and two championships in Australia, a championship in Japan, a double and then a treble in Scotland, and the Europa League while at Spurs. He also won an Asian Cup with Australia. He knows how to win things.

Also, Steve Cooper is Welsh, not English.

So, in sum, they don't win things. That's boring, inoffensive and mediocre. It doesn't matter how pretty their football is if their trophy cabinet is empty at the end of the day.

Be interesting to see where he goes next.

At the risk of sounding like tricky, if you only derive interest and enjoyment from sport when your preferred team is winning then you're doing it wrong. Also, if their relative lack of success makes Spurs boring and mediocre, I have no idea why you've stuck following Forest all this time.

Scotland job.

Agreed. I think he'll be looking somewhere on the continent.

Spurs literally just sacked him because he didn't win enough games in the Premier League.

I started following Forest in '91. Since then, they've been promoted four times and and relegated four times. Anything but boring.

You never know, but I doubt it. The Scotland job isn't all that attractive, and it's a lesser job than the Australian one he did successfully. I think he'll have a point to prove in club management before he thinks about international management again.

Maranakis is a big fan of Ange. Make what you will of that…

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