• BrettWilliamspanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Gerrard would be hilarious. Inexperience, big ego, no priors at the level and a truly shit squad of footballers would surely be the most wonderful car crash.

    Fingers crossed.

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    Don't imagine for a moment that he would take it. A poorly paid (in the scheme of things) hiding to nothing, with no major upside. I don't believe he will have much interest in establishing himself as a third tier manager.

  • Jeff_Albertsonhelp_outline
    2 months ago

    Harsh (particularly the comparison with SSC's Swansea and his loans) - although the style point is a very good one.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 months ago

    It’s a really, really bad job to take. They expect playoffs and, admirable as Clowes is as an owner, they’ve got a bottom six budget.

    But Stevie G is a bit thick, so maybe?

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 months ago

    He’s managed in six seasons now. What achievement makes you say he’s done a very good job? I just can’t see it.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    At this point I don't think he's inexperienced, he's had three top flight manager jobs in three countries in 7 years, and won a league title in one of them. He's obviously not good and he's only there because of his name, but he's not inexperienced and at his age still has plenty of time to become good.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 months ago

    I don't know what he did in Saudi but generally people credit much of his success in Scotland to Michael Beale.

    Has any bad manager become a good manager with experience? Good managers improve, sure. But there are limits to what experience can do.

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    Is this bloke getting top jobs then? Even a band with excellent material, can go to another level with a good front man. Or at least a credible one.

    Like Taylor had Clough ( : Discuss ).

    Not defending him, as such. But Gerrard's record is not as bad as people seem to want to believe. Nor is Frank Lampards. They have both done some good, and had some less good. As have almost all managers who work at the elite level for a long time.

    Pretty much every long term successful manager has had some absolute stinkers. You can learn from both good and bad.

    Which is off course not to say that they are the 'best' candidates for any given job.... But Hollywood owners want to star fuck former playing greats. Generally speaking. That's just how it is.

    Remember. The game they are playing is selling the brand for money. The football is just a consumable overhead.

  • BrettWilliamspanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago
  • Ingolens
    2 months ago

    Hopefully WMD has #unfinishedbusiness

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Who thus far appears to be having a very positive impact at Coventry.

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    Would have taken him over the German for England, personally. But English football is very largely foreign owned and run now, so I guess that's what we want. Spanish dancing to kraut orders. That's the end of the war for you us Tommy('s).

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    You what? You'd have liked Frank fucking Lampard as England manager?

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    Yes, definitely.....over a German.

    You have to remember that international management is a very different job to club management. And it's not good letting Germans run things whose major value is national pride.

    I also was not in favour of us being run by Italians or swedes. Nothing personal against them, but I feel it diminishes our status as a major footballing nation.... And Gareth Southgate, a shit club manager, did better than them.

  • Bridpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Hat. Stand.

    [Or Hutständer, if it helps feed your paranoia, Tricky]

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    Is it that only one major tournament contested by Europeans (euro or world cup) has been won by an international team without a manager who is a citizen of that country? (Greece, euros)

    How would you feel if the 1966 would cup had been won being led by, let's say, a Scot. Think you'd ever have heard the last of it?

    International football is entirely predicated on the criteria of national availability. I personally would extend that to staff. If the argument is that nationality has no place in the competition, then the whole thing is in a mess.

    I don't think that is hat stand, and it has nothing to do with paranoia. Particularly when we are living in the very age when our local football clubs are being wrestled from the communities that built them.

    ...i don't think international football support, and the pride derived from that, is well served by meekly supporting the bunch of foreigners foisted upon you.

    YMMV.

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