• 2 Jul 2025, 6:19 a.m.

    Bitterness drips from almost every word in this post.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 11:56 a.m.

    Realise there's going to be lots of scope for these but always good to see the owner quoted but not the manager.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 1:27 p.m.

    Paranoia. Even managers have holidays in the off-season. Chill.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 1:46 p.m.

    It is deliberate. Not difficult to get someone senior in the Comms team to sign-off some fluffy platitudes in the manager's name about a popular player signing a new contract. No need to disturb anyone's holiday for that stuff.

    Clearly, our owner wants his name linked with the good stuff at the moment. This is completely within his gift, considering it's his train set and everything.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 1:47 p.m.

    That was all I was implying.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 4:02 p.m.

    I don't. I just find it amusing.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 4:04 p.m.

    Different people like to take different things from the game. Some of them are interested in the actual football, rather than the corporate takeover of it.

    It's a big jarring to be reminded that football isn't about the football...at every juncture.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 4:14 p.m.

    I regard myself as interested in the actual football. But not much interested in the under 21s, the women or the "club world cup", so there's not much actual football going on and you entertain yourself where you can.

    On the contract renewal thing. I saw that Branthwaite also extended his contract at Everton yesterday. Here's the piece on their website: www.evertonfc.com/news/2025/july/02/Branthwaite-Signs-Long-Term-Everton-Deal/

    He briefly mentions the owners but mostly it's about the manager, the players, the fans, the new stadium. Also quoted is David Moyes but nothing from owner, who clearly doesn't give a shit about tying down their promising young defender.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 4:20 p.m.

    Possibly fuming that he's had to write a bigger check, but not get anything extra? Or maybe secure in his worth to the organisation without having to put his name tag on every sock?

  • 2 Jul 2025, 4:21 p.m.

    That’s lovely, and Moyes will be gone long before the owner. Hopefully their next manager will say nice things about him too.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 5:31 p.m.

    Each to his / her own. I just cannot get very excited either way about who is or isn’t quoted in a club statement during the deepest off-season about someone extending their contract.

    I assume in the Tooting Popular Front Community Assets League of your obsession there is no room for anything so corporate or bourgeois as contracts.

    Like almost all conservatives, you appear to be yearning for an idyllic state in the past… that never actually existed - at least, not in our lifetimes. We sold Ian Storey-Moore 55 years ago because we needed the money. Tony Woodcock left 46 years ago because we couldn’t afford to match the wages being offered by 1 FC Köln.

    It’s been about money for at least half a century. More so now than it’s ever been, & it will continue to get ever worse as long as there are vast sums to be made from the game - so for the foreseeable future. There is 100% fuck all that we can do about it…

    … which is precisely why I try to enjoy the football that is being played by some of the best players Forest have had in 40+ years, & ignore the off-field shite that surrounds the game, always has and always will. The only variable is the depth of the shite.

    It’s July. There’s a Test Match on & Notts are going really well in the Championship. Get a beer. Chill.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 6:17 p.m.

    Physician, heal thyself. You asked. I just gave you the respect of an answer, because I genuinely took you at your word that you were too thick to understand why some people might have a problem. I'm totally chilled about it.

    For some people, me included, there's a difference between 'money' that arises due to the direct community support of a football club, and 'money' that comes around because of an oligarchs desire to generate a profile that provides a level of acceptance, or an international criminal conspiracy to shift money about, or a human rights abusing petrostate to exercise increased control over democratic populations, or gambling companies to extort funds from the unwary.

    I don't make any judgement if the acuity of your moral senses doesn't extend to identifying different flavours of motivations and money. It's just that you asked, and for some of us it can make gulping down the increasing volumes of excrement that we are fed a little more unpalatable.

    YMMV.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 10:34 p.m.

    Media scuttle suggesting that Elanga fancies the Newcastle gig. Shame if he goes, but if they put real money down then it’ll count as great business overall. Maybe they’ve got another Anderson they can chuck in for peanuts.

    Gotta think that his age, position and trajectory put his value in the higher echelons of PL forwards which is, what, £60-70m? We don’t need the cash right now so hopefully that’s on the cards.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 10:35 p.m.

    Don't imagine they'd be spending so much time and effort if they didn't have at least some indication that he's keen.

  • 2 Jul 2025, 11:03 p.m.

    Value principles are always buy low, sell high....on that basis you might think pretty much every first team starter is currently at peak value (I think it unlikely that many of them will have as good a season next time out, never mind better). So there's a case for selling them all, and getting new ones*. From a players perspective they will also be thinking that this is their moment (improved contract, new gig)...so they either cost you more money, and/or get worse, or fuck off. It's just the way of the world.

    Elanga has done his time, dropped down to show his value (us), now it's seize the moment time. I shall miss him, but I shall also wish him well. He put in a right fucking shift for us, and things would have been a lot different without him flogging himself half to death for our benefit. Everybody wins here....potentially. You have to be realistic about where we are in the pecking order...and a players career is short enough that he can't afford a couple more years with us if he's shooting for the top.

    * Not suggesting this as an actually appealing strategic plan. I like team building in order to exceed the sum of parts.