Doesn’t make any difference for Europe. We can only have 21 players who weren’t in our academy. We also can only have 17 who weren’t in an English academy but that’s not an issue.
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Also a rumour we're in contract talks with CHO.
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If the Hutchinson deal happens I believe that will make him the 7th biggest Championship sale ever.
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I found myself thinking that if we sign Hutchinson and McAtee it might signal we're willing to listen to offers for CHO.
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Given the (rumoured) 50% or so sell-on clause to Chelsea, I'd say we'd get better value by just keeping CHO.
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Luiz rumour again.
If we sign even 3 of Macatee, Hutchinson, Luiz and the french fella it'd be some statement.
Can I be greedy and ask for a full back as well?
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Luiz I think is a loan with an obligation. Not sold on Hutchinson. Arsenal academy grad. Went to Chelsea ended up at Ipswich. Skilled, Tricky. Lightweight as fuck.
Not the same position but Hayden Hackney turned down Ipswich did he not? Better talent I think and only 20 million .
I am still hoping Adama Traore rolls up. He is a chaos bunny and certainly not lightweight and ooooh that baby oil!!!
Cough… sorry. Or we could get Lewis Miley from the Toon because they don’t seem to know what to do with their talent. That kid is aces!
Anyway not my money but better options than Omari.
Chicago: Hitting F5
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Hayden Hackney is a central midfielder, he’d be an alternative to Luiz, not Hutchinson.
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Yes I said that in my post. Skim readers are the death of civility.
And yes I did catch that Tricky Warren Zevon crack in the music thread. Just chose to ignore it.
Chicago: Fan of long form.
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City basically don’t sell their young players without buy-back clauses now, having had their fingers burned by the Cole Palmer sale.
As you say, they don’t always exercise them (Delap, for example), & provided the buy-back price is high enough, essentially all we’re doing is giving them first refusal if / when he moves on.
Besides, if they’re even thinking buy-back in due course, it means he’s been a raging success for us. Which can only be good. Let’s face it, if City really want one of our players, they’ll get him, with or without a buy-back
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There was always a bit of a Kia Joorabchian weight hanging over Edu when he was Arsenal. The simple accusation was that he always used his agents to get players for them. William and of course their most expensive mistake ever (even though I liked the player... NIcholas Pepe..).
It seems this could be happening again with Douglas Luiz (we want him) and Omari Hutchinson (who ironically was at Arsenal as a yoof) who seems awfully expensive for a player relegated from the Premier League regardless of his age.
i would hope that these transfers are not to help out his agent and mate Kia because if you look at it, it certainly seems so. Hopefully other unrelated signings (as in the Benfica bloke) will not be affected by the big Kia transfers. I am not putting this out here to be a dick. I am putting it out there because it kind of happened at Arsenal and i hope EDU is better than that and can help unearth some gems rather than his mates clients.
Pretty sure Tricky will be along to have an opinion on this...
Chicago: History buff.
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Does he? We’re paying £10m less for Hutchinson than we got for Brennan, who was also a young player with big potential who had had a single decent season in the Premier League (& that was 2 seasons ago, with all the inflation that has happened in between). Sure, Ipswich went down & we didn’t, but a) it’s not as though we cruised serenely to survival in that first season & b) you surely can’t pin Ipswich’s demise on a single young winger.
Hutchinson also has a long time left on his contract, is English & young, all of which attract a premium.
We’re paying for potential. Presumably our scouting team think there’s enough to work with there (& his pedigree is good). As someone else said a few days ago, Lee Carsley can spot a player, & he rates him.
The bottom line is that we’re only going to know whether we have overpaid for him (assuming he signs) in a minimum of 6 months… probably longer. After all, many pundits said we were mad to pay £35k for Anderson a year ago; not saying it now, though, are they?
Fan assessments of how much a player is “really” worth are notoriously arbitrary & seldom have much connection with the real business of football clubs.
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We got Anderson for 15 million essentially as Vlach went the other way for an outrageous 20m.
I loved Anderson at Newcastle. Was ecstatic we got him out of nowhere. If only we could do the same with Lewis Miley those dumb Geordie cunts.
Brennan always had lightning speed and was always scoring goals. Something hutch doesn’t have and hasn’t been. Don’t get me wrong he’s a tidy player but nowhere near the potential of Brennan who was electric even when he was raw. He ( Omari), is also easy to knock off the ball. I think if Taiwo stays he will have to put an arm around him prison sex stylee and show him the ropes when it comes to weight training.
Chicago: Man of Iron.
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Brennan is also easy to run over (if he doesn't run past you). I like Brennan as a player, but I still think we got top dollar, and a great deal (for him and us). A real win-win.
I am delighted that Djed got a new deal at totteningham. I like the cut of the young mans jib, and he's a top player.
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I know, but that wasn’t my point. More than one of the compilations of pre-season pundits predicting Forest doom 12 months ago showed assorted ex-pros openly questioning / ridiculing the Anderson buy. One of them (I think it was those two ex-Spurs Muppets) simply ran “why are you predicting Forest to go down?” “Simple; because £35m for Elliot bloody Anderson”.
I appreciate that the phrase “wait and see” isn’t high in the Chic hit-list, & that you specialist in semi-demented instant judgement… but only time will tell whether Hutchinson is over-priced.
You think he is. Fair enough - but with respect you and I are grizzled Webmongs spouting opinionated drivel on line, whereas Forest pay a number of people for analysis & assessment that goes a tad deeper than “I think he’s lightweight based on a few brief sightings on that there telly”. Doesn’t mean they always get it right, but (though Tricky hates this for some perverse Tricky reason), I’d say their recent track record has way more hits than misses.
