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Ingo
18 Oct 2025
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    JimShady
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    21 Oct 2025, 6:15 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:15 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    I think he's pragmatic and has played the hands he's been dealt

    I hope you are right, but there's no evidence for this in his career so far. We're about to find out.

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    tricky
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    21 Oct 2025, 6:17 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:17 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    I realise there's an amount of hopium going on here, but still.

    I am with you, on a coaching/management principles basis. We are both potentially cruising for a bruising.

    With a coach like Dyche, you know what its going to look like. Sort out the basics, keep the game simple, do the right things, with the correct bodies in the appropriate places. Then either the team is second rate and keeps fighting hard to keep the wages coming in, or more fancy dans get more fancy ideas and want a different voice.

    For now we need the dulcet tones of industrial gravel.

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    Simon
    Squad 6580 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 6:25 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:25 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:
    @Russ has written:

    I think he's pragmatic and has played the hands he's been dealt

    I hope you are right, but there's no evidence for this in his career so far. We're about to find out.

    Any manager who’s been around for as long as him has an approach and style that works for them and they aren’t going to deviate from it. The hope is that our better forwards will be able to carry more threat than his Everton or Burnley teams and we’ll get better football from that approach.

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    Seven
    Squad 1459 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 6:32 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:32 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    Have you guys not heard him on Forest podcasts before? He's a lovely fella who clearly has a very deep seated affection for the club. There's a lot to like about him and his team will be very easy to get behind.

    I’ve not listened to a Forest podcast since that Paul McGregor and Matt Forde one. I did like that.

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    chicago
    Squad 2552 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 6:32 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:32 p.m.
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    It’s like night and fucking day. Very well spoken. Touched on basics. Set pieces. Geeing up the players. Belief. Defence. He comes across really really well.

    Put me in wirh team Ginger.

    Ugly win tomorrow and I will be happy.

    Chicago: Optimised.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2646 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 6:32 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:32 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:
    @Russ has written:

    I think he's pragmatic and has played the hands he's been dealt

    I hope you are right, but there's no evidence for this in his career so far. We're about to find out.

    Apart from the decade spent turning a tiny town into a premier league mainstay then the cameo keeping the bankrupt scousers up, despite the point deductions.

    Good logic, Mince.

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    JimShady
    Squad 3846 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 6:34 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:34 p.m.
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    @Ingo has written:
    @JimShady has written:
    @Russ has written:

    I think he's pragmatic and has played the hands he's been dealt

    I hope you are right, but there's no evidence for this in his career so far. We're about to find out.

    Apart from the decade spent turning a tiny town into a premier league mainstay then the cameo keeping the bankrupt scousers up, despite the point deductions.

    Good logic, Mince.

    I mean evidence that he can change his approach to play good attacking football given a more talented squad. He's always played a similar style.

    For the record I don't give a fuck what style he plays providing we don't get relegated.

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    tricky
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    21 Oct 2025, 6:42 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:42 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    evidence that he can change his approach to play good attacking football given a more talented squad

    Personally I found the style of football we played last season 'good attacking football' in the sense that when we got the football, we attacked and tried to score. Dyche is like that. It's also the style that put two stars on the shirt.

    I don't find defenders dicking about going side to side for a thousand passes, and two thirds of the match, "good attacking football".

    YMMV.

    There is no direct relationship between good attacking football and possession. If you try to score, you will give the ball away more. If you don't try to score, you can hold possession easier. Possession is not good attacking football, its good defensive football.

    Getting caught deep and turning over the ball near your goal is fucking rubbish football. I'd rather boot it away and get a pressing team turned. Run the fuckers.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2646 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 6:52 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 6:52 p.m.
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    I worry about our xG.

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    tricky
    Board 7317 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:15 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:15 p.m.
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    @Ingo has written:

    I worry about our xG.

    You can't get me as easily as that. Despite being wired with all this coffee. Shall be slipping out for a couple of pints of depressants shortly.

    xG is what has got most top flight teams trying to reincarnate Rory Delap, and the current favourites for the title looking like an expensive Dyche drilled Burnley. Worry about that.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2425 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:21 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:21 p.m.
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    Dyche appears to prefer 4 at the back, and so do I with this squad, unless we went with a proper 3, not 5.

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    JimShady
    Squad 3846 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:32 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:32 p.m.
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    What's the difference?

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    tricky
    Board 7317 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:32 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:32 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    What's the difference?

    Where they stand. Where they run.

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    Jake
    Squad 1818 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:42 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:42 p.m.
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    But not where they kick?

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:48 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:48 p.m.
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    I'm a big fan of sentiment in football. It's sentiment that makes me still support this club after so many years. I've never understood the notion that there is no place for it in football, for me there is no meaningful football without it. Loving the early interviews and right behind our new management team.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2425 posts
    21 Oct 2025, 7:49 p.m. 21 Oct 2025, 7:49 p.m.
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    @Jake has written:

    But not where they kick?

    I don't see that as an exhaustive list. Also includes who you pick.

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