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PSR/FFP fun with calculators

Simon
16 Feb 2024
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    Simon
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    1 Mar 2024, 8:56 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 8:56 a.m.
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    I did read this:

    Quoted message:

    Crucially, however, Forest’s breaches occurred over a considerably shorter time frame.

    As more of an aggravating factor but I guess it plays against Everton being warned in January 21 they were in trouble and not actually being charged until the period ending in the summer of 22. We are going to claim we had a problem cause by our somewhat unique circumstances (promotion after 23 years with hardly any players) but it was brief and, as of now, in the past.

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    Lessred
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    1 Mar 2024, 9:09 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 9:09 a.m.
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    I think our best hope is that they are wary of public and internal football opinion turning against the rules and they deduct less than 6 points.

    My guess would still be 4-6 points - but who knows

    Exciting times

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    Simon
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    1 Mar 2024, 9:19 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 9:19 a.m.
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    @Lessred has written:

    My guess would still be 4-6 points - but who knows

    That’s been my guess since Everton’s appeal, with them having a total of 8-10 (probably 8 as the appeal made it clear they are using administration as a benchmark).

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    Ingo
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    1 Mar 2024, 9:21 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 9:21 a.m.
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    Do we still have to say Man City is a different situation and isn't relevant?

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    RC
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    1 Mar 2024, 9:27 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 9:27 a.m.
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    @Ingo has written:

    Do we still have to say Man City is a different situation and isn't relevant?

    Yes, but you have to say it 115 times.

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    Jeff_Albertson
    Squad 1231 posts
    1 Mar 2024, 9:30 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 9:30 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    Few bits from Paul Taylor's Athletic piece on Forest's PSR case: theathletic.com/5308309/2024/03/01/nottingham-forest-psr-hearing-explained/?source=emp_shared_article

    Forest are understood to have breached by a higher figure than Everton, who had an overspend of £19.5million on their allowable losses of £105m over a three-year period.
    Forest had been told by Tottenham Hotspur that they would make a bid for the Wales international once the sale of Harry Kane to Bayern Munich was completed. In the meantime, several bids from Brentford were rejected in June, worth in the region of £30m. Forest could have sold their prize asset within the financial period in which their losses were being assessed, but only for a figure that was far below their market value for him, which was £50m. The fact Johnson was not keen on a move to Brentford might also have been a stumbling block.

    Hopefully, the intent from Spurs will help (although it does beg the question of what would have happened if Kane to Bayern had fallen through).

    Noticeably he says Forest haven't embarked on a propaganda war like Everton, including briefing journalists. I would like to know where the Brennan defence line came from though, if it wasn't deliberately leaked to a journalist...

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    des
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    1 Mar 2024, 10:44 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 10:44 a.m.
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    Yes. I’m glad we haven’t gone down Everton’s ‘victims/corruption’ route which feels more pathetic with every passing game. But someone has certainly framed Forest’s position for the media.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    1 Mar 2024, 10:55 a.m. 1 Mar 2024, 10:55 a.m.
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    Though didn't the Everton appeal refer to the outpouring from supporters etc as a factor in changing the decision?

    So basically shouting and crying a lot gets you what you want.

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    Dave_Rave
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    1 Mar 2024, 12:25 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 12:25 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    So basically shouting and crying a lot gets you what you want.

    See Bruno Fernandes and free kicks.

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    Lessred
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    1 Mar 2024, 12:35 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 12:35 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Though didn't the Everton appeal refer to the outpouring from supporters etc as a factor in changing the decision?

    So basically shouting and crying a lot gets you what you want.

    Scousers gonna Scouse

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    Ingo
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    1 Mar 2024, 12:59 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 12:59 p.m.
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    Please credit your material, thanks.

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    Lessred
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    1 Mar 2024, 1:03 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 1:03 p.m.
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    If you said it first I completely retract my comment - it is clearly moronic

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    RC
    Squad 1510 posts
    1 Mar 2024, 1:54 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 1:54 p.m.
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    Calm down.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2425 posts
    1 Mar 2024, 5:30 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 5:30 p.m.
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    If we've got a formal note from Spuz stating their intent, and especially if we informed the Prem, then I'm going to cling to my 6 points suspended dream.

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    tricky
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    1 Mar 2024, 6:07 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 6:07 p.m.
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    Accountants are not well known for their laissez faire attitude to feelz. What did the books say on the deadline?

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    Simon
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    1 Mar 2024, 6:11 p.m. 1 Mar 2024, 6:11 p.m.
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    All the people deciding on punishments are kc's

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