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Simon
16 Feb 2024
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    Simon
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    8 Apr 2024, 3:51 p.m. 8 Apr 2024, 3:51 p.m.
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    @Jim7 has written:

    This is just a fucking farce.
    Last week we were told that the precedent was now set, and any breach means a minimum of 3 points, anything else added depends on the levels over the threshold minus mitigations etc.
    So today Everton get a deduction of one point below the so-called minimum…..
    They really are just making this shit up as they go along aren’t they.

    I don't know who told you that but they were clearly wrong even based on our judgement. We got three for the breach, another three for it being a big breach and then two back for our cooperation/early plea. The clear implication is that if we'd co-operated and pled early on a small breach, it would have been one point.

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    Lessred
    Squad 2062 posts
    8 Apr 2024, 4:04 p.m. 8 Apr 2024, 4:04 p.m.
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    I see Everton fans are still complaining about 2 points.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    8 Apr 2024, 4:06 p.m. 8 Apr 2024, 4:06 p.m.
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    @Lessred has written:

    I see Everton fans are still complaining about 2 points.

    The club are appealing it as well.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2208 posts
    8 Apr 2024, 10:10 p.m. 8 Apr 2024, 10:10 p.m.
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    twitter.com/PeterOHanrahaH/status/1777417485655896321?t=sf-f3OqO-9U3vCN1sd4lFg&s=19

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2425 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 6:46 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 6:46 a.m.
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    @BrettWilliams has written:

    twitter.com/PeterOHanrahaH/status/1777417485655896321?t=sf-f3OqO-9U3vCN1sd4lFg&s=19

    I'm kind of stunned that they see their funding from Russia as some kind of mitigation when it ought to be seen as some kind of making it fucking worse.

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 8:05 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 8:05 a.m.
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    And their current takeover option also has links to Putin.

    But then, does our being sponsored by possible child traffickers make our position worse?

    Honestly, the whole thing needs breaking.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 8:09 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 8:09 a.m.
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    @steve has written:

    But then, does our being sponsored by possible child traffickers make our position worse?

    Wut?

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 8:26 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 8:26 a.m.
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    There was a big investigative piece by Josimar a while back that raised serious concerns about the legitimacy of our main shirt sponsor, not just us to be fair they are involved in quite a few Premier League and European teams, and their possible links to organised crime.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 8:48 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 8:48 a.m.
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    @steve has written:

    There was a big investigative piece by Josimar a while back that raised serious concerns about the legitimacy of our main shirt sponsor, not just us to be fair they are involved in quite a few Premier League and European teams, and their possible links to organised crime.

    Obviously not great but a sponsor is several steps removed from the owner. At least Marinakis is clean. Oh.

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 9:02 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 9:02 a.m.
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    It's just another part of how being in the Premier League isn't great. Of course, if we were really the rebel city fighting the good fight as we have recently been claiming we might be speaking out against this stuff rather than joining in with it.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    9 Apr 2024, 9:13 a.m. 9 Apr 2024, 9:13 a.m.
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    @steve has written:

    It's just another part of how being in the Premier League isn't great. Of course, if we were really the rebel city fighting the good fight as we have recently been claiming we might be speaking out against this stuff rather than joining in with it.

    I've never really thought that applies to the owner. Not sure there are too many rebel billionaires.

    And it's not like we were immune from dodgy sponsors in the championship (Fawaz's Fridge's and the ponzi fake football share market, even if you are comfortable with "normal" bookies.)

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    JimShady
    Squad 3846 posts
    10 Apr 2024, 11:04 a.m. 10 Apr 2024, 11:04 a.m.
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    Weren't we meant to find out the timetable for our appeal on Monday?

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    10 Apr 2024, 11:22 a.m. 10 Apr 2024, 11:22 a.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    Weren't we meant to find out the timetable for our appeal on Monday?

    There's various reports from a few weeks ago that hearing was going to be before the 12th. If that's true, we'll probably hear the outcome on the Monday after the Everton game.

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    Seven
    Squad 1459 posts
    10 Apr 2024, 12:32 p.m. 10 Apr 2024, 12:32 p.m.
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    Part of me thinks we will more likely get points back should the appeal be heard before the end of the season. (Would they give us 1 point back to relegate Luton?).

    But part of me also knows the whole thing is made up on the hoof, so who knows.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    10 Apr 2024, 12:41 p.m. 10 Apr 2024, 12:41 p.m.
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    @Seven has written:

    Part of me thinks we will more likely get points back should the appeal be heard before the end of the season. (Would they give us 1 point back to relegate Luton?).

    But part of me also knows the whole thing is made up on the hoof, so who knows.

    The Everton second case was the first time any of the four commissions accepted a mitigation claimed by the club (our 2 points was agreed/proposed by the PL in advance), so maybe that's opened up the possibility of other mitigations being listened to.

    Also feel that each commission is trying to add something new to the process which is basically being formed through case law, so it's pretty unlikely this one will just ok our first punishment. Although that could go either way.

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    12 Apr 2024, 5:37 p.m. 12 Apr 2024, 5:37 p.m.
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    Loophole FC doing what they do best once more.

    www.lcfc.com/news/3963781/lcfc-statement

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