• 18 Mar 2024, 9:44 p.m.

    I think it's actually quite a few.

    Us. Brentford. Leeds. Sheff Utd. Wolves. Brighton. Huddersfield. Bournemouth. Watford. Leicester.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 9:48 p.m.

    So much for our unique situation then. Most those play off winners as well.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 9:49 p.m.

    Lord Sumption once said law is common sense with knobs on. This is regulatory rules which is analogous and the common sense would be Forest spent a shotload of money on 20-odd players which seemed quite crazy at the time and unlike anythign any peers had done, this was obviously going to happen and anybody with common sense can see that. (The response to that might be Forest had no players because they got lucky with a manager who then fluked it with a bunch of outstanding loan players who then all fucked off, so it was unusual).

  • 18 Mar 2024, 9:53 p.m.

    Actually I think Crystal Palace are in there too.

    So out of 13 only Middlesbrough and Cardiff didn't stay up the year after promotion.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:08 p.m.

    Sheff U had parachute payments last year, Bournemouth had them the year they beat us to second, no idea how you came up with Watford given they were a perennial parachute yo-yo team. Parachutes last two seasons after relegation, not one.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:15 p.m.

    Sheffield United didn't have them first Wilder season they went and stayed up, is what he meant I think.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:16 p.m.

    They came up the first time without parachute payments and stayed up the first year. Doesn't mean they didn't then get relegated and come back with parachute payments.

    For example, Watford were promoted in 2014/15 after 8 seasons in the Championship and then the next 5 years in the Premier League.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:19 p.m.

    Ah I see.

    I'm not sure that it's a particularly fair comparison to make though, given the FFP regulations didn't actually have any teeth until the last 4 or 5 years. Bournemouth, Watford, Wolves and several other teams got promoted and stayed up in no small part thanks to their owners pumping a fuckton of cash into them without any guardrails. Under current regs they'd all have been deducted points.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:23 p.m.

    On a tangential, but related subject. They were banging on about how marvellous the top of the championship is this year. Apparently three clubs already have more points than the team finishing third did last season. Amazing. These people seem to think.

    I just thought, death of the pyramid. Largely as a result of financial doping.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:24 p.m.

    Not as many fucktons as we did though.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:37 p.m.

    The article says we project to lose £12 million to £17 million this year.

    You would think that would put us close to the wire next year too?

  • 18 Mar 2024, 10:43 p.m.

    Not Necessarily.

    1. We will have two years worth of 'ship allowable losses, rather than two EPL losses.
    2. The rules will be different.
    3. We will make some more shit up with 'player' 'sales' and other hot spreadsheet action.

    Unless we drop back into the champs, where there will be all manner of shit to deal with.

  • Squad
    18 Mar 2024, 10:47 p.m.

    That’s Numberwang!

  • 18 Mar 2024, 11:01 p.m.

    Whether we stay up or not I would imagine we'll sell Murillo for a metric fuckton of cash this summer. If we go down we'll probably sell Morgan as well. Either way, between sales and parachute payments I think we'll be fine.

  • 18 Mar 2024, 11:41 p.m.

    Financially we will be fine.

    On the pitch I'm not so hopeful...

  • 19 Mar 2024, 12:17 a.m.

    Our unique situation was that we only had seven players, and three of them were Harry Arter’s arse.