• 21 Oct 2025, 9:12 p.m.

    There can’t be much money floating around the NFFC podcast scene. The audience potential is tiny in podcast terms… and this thread makes it seem like there are several people putting stuff out that’s at least reaching a credible standard.

  • 21 Oct 2025, 9:15 p.m.

    My guess (based on nothing whatsoever) is that the people on FF are either doing it because they like broadcasting their Forest opinions or, in the case of some of the ex pros and media types, as general promotion of their personal brand.

    I doubt any payment goes further than the level of an occasional pint.

  • 21 Oct 2025, 9:31 p.m.

    This, I imagine. Gets you on the media phone for an opinion list.

  • 22 Oct 2025, 7:04 a.m.

    FF seems to be the most financially successful. He has adverts in the show (the more lucrative ones that he does himself) he also has membership, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a (low) few k a month from it.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 1:01 p.m.

    Classic Birtles on FF. Refuses to accept that players might be tired after playing on Thursday ("its only October, not February") but a bit later explains that playing in Europe "interferes with" the Premier league.

    How Garry? How does it interfere?

  • 27 Oct 2025, 1:33 p.m.

    Time away from home, training disruption, and travel commitments?

  • 27 Oct 2025, 1:48 p.m.

    'Show me on the fixture list where Europe interfered with you, Garrrrrrry'.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 3:14 p.m.

    Are you suggesting there's no statistical drop off after home european games? Some of those are going to lead to mental tiredness, if not physical.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 4:04 p.m.

    No. All sorts of things can lead to mental, and physical, sub-optimal performance.

    Part of becoming an elite footballer is learning to cope with the cadence of an increased number of games. Are you suggesting that we shouldn't bother with our lot, and swap all of them out? It's not practical, there are some that we are going to need in all games. It needs clever management of all of the factors allied to good decision making. Ideally taken from the training complex, medical science, understanding of the players mentality, and their ability to adjust. Rather than from, say, the internet forum. There will be some degree of chucking them in and seeing how it works out, where no pre-existing data exists.

    What I'm suggesting is that we don't make assumptions that an outcome proves that there was a better approach. We might hold an opinion that something could have been done differently, that's entirely legitimate (and likely, nothing anyone ever does is perfect). The total absence of evidence that this alternate universe is actually 'better' should remove the assumption of certainty. That's all.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 4:30 p.m.

    I'm going off the fact that we kept all the players we could from Thursday and they all looked knackered (or just shit, but let's hope for the former).

    Palace changed 3, Villa changed 6 and both did significantly better than us. But, of course, could just be coincidence.

    I don't think we should have changed 11 but a few fresh legs, especially when we only made two late tactical subs on Thursday, instinctively makes sense.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 4:37 p.m.

    Well, possibly...but the fresh legs coming into a tiring game didn't exactly look amazing.

    Perhaps our best players, a bit knackered, still make up the best eleven from the squad on that day? Perhaps the manager was playing the long game, and the idea was to get more fitness into the legs of our best eleven, and he had to use a game to do it? Pre-season, as we go, as it were?

    I'm not persuaded by the argument that Hutchinson and McAtee, at this stage of their development, would have transformed our matchday outcome.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 5:16 p.m.

    That leads us to a different point of any point in signing them (for so much money) if they weren't to be immediately helpful in our extended fixture list?

  • 27 Oct 2025, 5:28 p.m.

    If we were bouncing around 10-15th I think we would have / would be, giving them more minutes to try and develop them into key players. But it's very difficult to do that in our current situation.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 6:24 p.m.

    I get that. Probably the "sensible" approach was to sacrifice Porto and pick a full strength team for the league. But there are obvious reasons why Dyche would want to go full strength for his first game and take his chances with the same team at Bournemouth.

    If he rolls out largely the same team for Manu, Sturm and Leeds, we're in trouble.

  • 27 Oct 2025, 6:40 p.m.

    We are in trouble. We can discuss how we get out of it, but for now...here we are.