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I’m surprised how poor Everton look to be honest. Dewsbury-Hall, Alcatraz, Gueye, O’Brien, Beto all look like Championship players.
Grealish has made no difference and Garner is wasted at left back.

Two poor sides. Can see both struggling.

Agreed. It's looked like a Championship fixture.

I think you are all sounding way too confident and smug given we've only played one game against a poor Brentford team.

There must be something in the water in Yorkshire.

I did think Everton looked extremely poor. Slow to the ball, ponderous on the ball and full of bad decisions. I thought they might be this years Forest, especially with the new stadium. But several of their players looked very ropey.

I do think our first 11 plus the new signings (and existing squad members like Yates, Dominguez) give me a bit more confidence that we won’t be obvious relegation fodder.

Two of the three promoted teams winning in the first week is good, though. As long as it isn’t Nottingham Forest, would be good for as many of the static 17 as possible to get relegated.

Normally I could get on board with the pessimism - that's traditionally been my style of support for Forest.

However, even I can see that - notwithstanding the significant loss of Elanga (albeit for very good money) - the squad looks stronger than last year on paper. We need defensive reinforcements at full-back, but otherwise we're in decent nick. Being able to rotate Hudson-Odoi with Ndoye, Hutchinson and McAtee rather than Sosa and Silva is significant.

We obviously need to see how Kalimuendo and Jesus settle and adapt, but they add something different and give more options up front. Our first-choice back four is one of the better ones in the league and we have a very dependable goalkeeper.

Leeds and Everton, on last night's evidence, are nowhere near that. Manchester United didn't look great either the day before, for all the money they've spent.

Kalimuendo looks to have played wide in a three as well as in the middle, so lots of cover up front now.

Just stepping away from the Soccerball Moneybags Premiership for a moment, I see that Morecambe’s sale to Punjabi Warriors has finally gone through. Has to be good news.

Barry Roche is smiling.

I hope so. I think the supporters trust are being sensible in cautious optimism. The fans obviously wonder what the reasons are behind them buying the club, as should always be the case, and given recent experience want to ensure accountability. The new owners certainly seem to be communicating more, which is a positive start, and hopefully it all works out well.

It’s genuinely hard to see how the new owners could be worse than the outgoing guy - even with the history of shit owners, especially at that level.

Well they sacked the well respected manager on Day 1 who had been helping to pay wages with his own money... and on Day 2 appointed the first Sikh manager (ex Snotts No.2) beeb article

time will be the judge I guess.

Well, yes. But the sole reason the “well-respected manager” was having to help pay wages with his own money… was the Elite-Level Scum-Baggery of the previous owner.

Without the new guys, they literally have no club. The new guys might be a train wreck; as you say only time will tell.

But even if they are a train wreck, I find it hard to picture a future world in which Morecambe fans are wistfully barking back to the good old days of imminent extinction.

Do you still yearn for the days of winding-up orders, unpaid bills & “Fawaz Day”? And we had an entry level shit owner in comparison with the Morecambe bloke. (Pretty low bar, I know!)