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Russ
25 Apr 2023
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    Jim7
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    10 Mar 2025, 5:02 p.m. 10 Mar 2025, 5:02 p.m.
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    Erm ok. But it is contentious because some people like the idea, and many don’t. There is therefore some contention.

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    tricky
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    10 Mar 2025, 5:48 p.m. 10 Mar 2025, 5:48 p.m.
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    Acting progressively by increment in the area of contention, is exactly their stock in trade.

    Then one day you wake up, and think....fucking hell, how did we end up here?

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    Sean
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    10 Mar 2025, 7:30 p.m. 10 Mar 2025, 7:30 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    Acting progressively by increment in the area of contention, is exactly their stock in trade.

    Then one day you wake up, and think....fucking hell, how did we end up here?

    And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house"
    And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful wife".

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    tricky
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    10 Mar 2025, 7:45 p.m. 10 Mar 2025, 7:45 p.m.
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    Same as it ever was?

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    Russ
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    10 Mar 2025, 10:13 p.m. 10 Mar 2025, 10:13 p.m.
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    This is a pretty bold statement from Luton. Good for them, I reckon.

    i.redd.it/5ysqk6v7fywd1.jpeg

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    tricky
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    10 Mar 2025, 11:11 p.m. 10 Mar 2025, 11:11 p.m.
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    MNF with Russell Martin was good. Quite a lot about football in it.

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    Simon
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    11 Mar 2025, 7:11 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 7:11 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    MNF with Russell Martin was good. Quite a lot about football in it.

    Was he explaining what other managers were doing wrong?

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    Mangetout
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    11 Mar 2025, 9 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 9 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @tricky has written:

    MNF with Russell Martin was good. Quite a lot about football in it.

    Was he explaining what other managers were doing wrong?

    "Nothing wrong with the system. It's the players that are shite" or something.

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    JimShady
    Squad 3852 posts
    11 Mar 2025, 9:13 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 9:13 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    MNF with Russell Martin was good. Quite a lot about football in it.

    Do you know if there's somewhere I can listen/watch this back? Just been browsing but only coming across highlight clips rather than the full monty.

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    tricky
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    11 Mar 2025, 9:59 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 9:59 a.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    Do you know if there's somewhere I can listen/watch this back? Just been browsing but only coming across highlight clips rather than the full monty.

    No idea, sorry.

    @Simon has written:

    Was he explaining what other managers were doing wrong?

    Not really. He was explaining his philosophy of 'hooking' the other team in, by encouraging the press, to free a man to allow them to play out and gain territory. It was at least as interesting what he didn't say - specifically: Why it's better to put the ball at risk, encourage the press close to your goal, which will have an inevitable percentage failure rate and lead to increased jeopardy to your goal. Rather than just take the easiest route to gain territory early in possession (play it early to a man in space, run it out, or kick it longer and work off the out ball), then start dicking about with a hook and tease if you hit a brick wall of a team defending in shape.

    I didn't say I thought he was right. I said I thought it was good. Nice to know what 'philosophy coaches' think, and what they appear to have a blind spot with.

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    tricky
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    11 Mar 2025, 10:11 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 10:11 a.m.
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    Sir Dim Ratfink says that they are going to build an iconic stadium as befitting of the status of Manchester United.

    [checks notes]

    So presumably given that they are going to be insolvent by the end of the year, and are currently languishing in the bottom half of the table, propped up by the officiating, and crippled by debt preventing meaningful change, that will be a tinpot bornmuff style shed?

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    JimShady
    Squad 3852 posts
    11 Mar 2025, 10:18 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 10:18 a.m.
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    For all that ... I'm jealous.

    www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgprplz94yo

    It looks bloody great.

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    JimShady
    Squad 3852 posts
    11 Mar 2025, 10:19 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 10:19 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    So presumably given that they are going to be insolvent by the end of the year

    Infrastructure costs aren't related to PSR, so Radcliffe can finance this out of his pocket if he likes, which he certainly has the cash to do.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2198 posts
    11 Mar 2025, 10:22 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 10:22 a.m.
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    @JimShady has written:
    @tricky has written:

    So presumably given that they are going to be insolvent by the end of the year

    Infrastructure costs aren't related to PSR, so Radcliffe can finance this out of his pocket if he likes, which he certainly has the cash to do.

    Are they still wanting all of us to pay for it?

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    tricky
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    11 Mar 2025, 10:27 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 10:27 a.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    For all that ... I'm jealous.

    www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgprplz94yo

    It looks bloody great.

    Does it? Looks like a hematoma that's been flobbed on to me.

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    Simon
    Squad 6610 posts
    11 Mar 2025, 10:28 a.m. 11 Mar 2025, 10:28 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    Not really. He was explaining his philosophy of 'hooking' the other team in, by encouraging the press, to free a man to allow them to play out and gain territory. It was at least as interesting what he didn't say - specifically: Why it's better to put the ball at risk, encourage the press close to your goal, which will have an inevitable percentage failure rate and lead to increased jeopardy to your goal. Rather than just take the easiest route to gain territory early in possession (play it early to a man in space, run it out, or kick it longer and work off the out ball), then start dicking about with a hook and tease if you hit a brick wall of a team defending in shape.

    I’m sure there’s a case for playing his way and it can work if you’ve got exceptional footballers in defence and in goal. (Lots round me were getting excited on the occasions we were pressing City on Saturday but I couldn’t help think that was exactly what they wanted.) If you’ve got Southampton’s players, you are trying to get relegated because you will be giving away goals most weeks and your strikers have no chance of scoring at the rate they’d need to.

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