• trickylens
    a year ago

    I see that a clear penalty for Gordon, against manure, was completely overlooked by the officials and VAR. Oh ho! Another accident!

    Add two more points to the manure ill gotten gains totaliser.

  • Mangetoutpanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    "Anthony Gordon has been excellent for us. He took his goal well. He should have had a penalty as well."
    DISREPUTE!

  • Dave_Ravepanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    Is that the same Anthony Gordon that 'won' a penalty v Wet Sham by making no attempt to play the ball and just sticking his leg in the path of the defender as he was clearing it?
    Fuck him.

  • trickylens
    a year ago

    Let's not forget that it's shit officiating that has let cheats prosper..... and forced players to all fall down, to get them to actually make a decision.

    We can't fix anything until we can find one person who can blow a whistle, and knows what they are actually looking at. It's not that hard. Unless you are looking in all the wrong places.

  • Deanpanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    He's a diving twat and has had plenty go his way this season, clear pen mind you

  • trickylens
    a year ago

    Don't get distracted by the invitation to focus on the twattery. If you want things better, you have to fix the officiating.

    Advice that has almost universal application in the modern world.

  • Jim7panorama_fish_eye
  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    I'm calling bullshit on that table. Needs much more info on methodology.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    a year ago

    It's saying that there were a net 4 referee decisions that were overturned in our favour by VAR (the Burnley handball goal for example). So the two or three failures to give penalties at Everton, the Awoniyi penalty v Newcastle, Neco v West Ham etc aren't counted because VAR stuck with the on-field decision.

    It's probably accurate but it's not meaningful.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    What about decisions which should have gone to VAR but weren't even looked at? And vice versa? Also doesn't take account of the timing of the decisions and the impact they could have on games. It's total crap. Yet I bet Neville brings it up ...

  • Simonhelp_outline
    a year ago

    www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38196464/how-var-decisions-affect-premier-league-club-2023-24

    Somewhat ironic that our 1 penalty this season was a VAR overturn. Without VAR (assuming referees still made the same decisions) we'd have had none.

    Also, we only took one point from those four games...

    Our complaint isn't really with VAR, it's with refereeing.

  • trickylens
    a year ago

    Correct. Although the refereeing has been made worse by the interpretation of the law changes to accommodate VAR, and the chosen implementation of VAR itself. Refereeing was better without VAR. It was bad, but better.

    VAR is an attempt (if you believe the stated motivation) to solve an issue that wasn't the real problem. Not refereeing in more areas of the ptich, and refereeing certain areas while everyone waits....quite clearly that was never a good idea for the game, the fans, the players, or fair outcomes....so what were they playing at doing it that way?

  • Jeff_Albertsonhelp_outline
    a year ago

    Yes - and the ref (Anthony Taylor!!) had already given a softer penalty to Brighton, without the need for VAR. (that's not suggesting conspiracy, just that he's not a great ref)
    The other joke is both penalties in that game v Brighton were far softer than several potential penalties VAR failed to intervene on.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    a year ago

    Think we’ve lent Norwich our set piece coach to offer instruction on setting up defensive walls.

  • Jim7panorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    Goalie’s having a mare.
    Shades of the Greek.

  • Charliepanorama_fish_eye
    a year ago

    3-0 almost half time. All over for Norwich, surely.

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