• Muswellpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    eh?

  • Russlens
    2 years ago

    Guru thinks I specifically use Americanisms in order to reinforce my previously made point about the purpose of language being to communicate meaning, and that if the language used is successful in doing so (e.g. English people understanding exactly what is meant by "soccer" even though it's not a word they use) then it's completely acceptable. Whereas in fact I use that argument because a) I don't feel the need to apologise for using words or phrases others don't consider to be correct as long as they know exactly what I mean, and b) it's a correct fucking point and language gatekeepers of all nationalities need to be called out for being small minded and petty.

  • Muswellpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    I understood both your points, my comment was inferring that Guru missed the Canadian eh? at the end of his comment.

    and whilst I can understand your point of view, nowhere in the world have I heard the term playoff series for a game involving two matches, certainly not in conjunction with football/soccer played in the UK.

  • Russlens
    2 years ago

    I don't care. You, and he, immediately knew exactly what I meant. If I fail to use what you consider to be the "correct" term on occasion, you'll just have to get over it.

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    So they might have an expectation what form you use to express yourself, and you do not wish to conform, and believe it's your right to buck prevailing opinion on the use of language?

    Glad to see that you are getting with the program(me - sorry chic).

  • Russlens
    2 years ago

    No, because identity is not the same as common parlance. Unless you're telling me that football gets offended at being referred to as soccer.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 years ago

    Is this the place to say "soccer" is 100% preferable to "footy"?

  • Russlens
    2 years ago

    Sure. Although if someone calls it "footy" then you know what they mean, unless of course they're Australian in which case they may be talking about rugby. Unless they're from that part of Australia that uses it to mean Aussie Rules.

    The English whining about "soccer" is especially amusing given the term was invented, as you all fucking know, by the English to distinguish association football from rugby football.

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    You are not qualified to decide on the relative levels of offence caused between different courses of action. That is in the eye of the offended.

    Use of language that offends others? tick
    Wilful determination to not conform to norms, for own reasons, despite this? tick

    You crowbar that cigarette paper into the miniscule gap if you want, after all it is you that you have to persuade.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    So boring

  • Russlens
    2 years ago

    Personal identity is a massively different thing to a common noun, and if you can't see that then that's a you problem.

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    That's in your judgement, and your view. Nothing more, and if you can't see that then that's a you problem.

  • Russlens
    2 years ago

    Bolton v Barnsley was a let down.

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    Interviewer: You are top of the stats for clearances, and headed clearances. What does that tell you?

    Ethan Pinnock: The opponents keep kicking the ball at me.

  • chicagopanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    It so hurts me to say this but come on (puke in mouth…dirty cunting wolves…)

    Chicago: Keeping an eye on Teletext today.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 years ago

    Is Spurs losing today (currently) good or bad if we need them to beat Leeds next week?

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