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Russ
25 Apr 2023
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    Simon
    Squad 6610 posts
    28 Nov 2023, 6:32 p.m. 28 Nov 2023, 6:32 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/67549886

    Looking forward to every sin binning being subject to a 10 minute var check.

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    28 Nov 2023, 7:01 p.m. 28 Nov 2023, 7:01 p.m.
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    It's been a long time since 'football' has really been about the football, but those running the game have completely lost the plot now. I don't know why people put up with it.

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    28 Nov 2023, 11:34 p.m. 28 Nov 2023, 11:34 p.m.
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    I absolutely have no dog in the fight, but did anyone see the penalty decision in the PSG Newcastle game? What an atrocious decision. And where did all that extra time come from?

    Bent.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2648 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 6:03 a.m. 29 Nov 2023, 6:03 a.m.
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    I didn’t know she could juggle light ale bottles. I didn’t know she couldn’t sing! And where did that snake come from?

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2198 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 7:20 a.m. 29 Nov 2023, 7:20 a.m.
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    Dodgy, but I keep hearing (Radio 5 this morning latest example) that not handball because it came off his body first.

    That's a Premier League added 'rule' not adopted by UEFA for their tournaments.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2214 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 7:55 a.m. 29 Nov 2023, 7:55 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Dodgy, but I keep hearing (Radio 5 this morning latest example) that not handball because it came off his body first.

    That's a Premier League added 'rule' not adopted by UEFA for their tournaments.

    Radio Four explained it better half an hour ago. Reporter politely pointed out that's why Howe is wrong to say it was the incorrect decision.

    The amount of added time is obviously a different matter.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2198 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 7:59 a.m. 29 Nov 2023, 7:59 a.m.
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    Without wanting to trigger Tricky, but not sure when football became a game with different rules in different places.

    Someone will probably tell me it was 1953 or something, but it seems like a very recent thing.

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:41 a.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:41 a.m.
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    The laws have always been the same, throughout my lifetime. The interpretation has always been different. Often from the same referee, in the same game. I believe different leagues brief and instruct their referees differently. It was always the case that European games were 'refereed differently' to the allowed blood and thunder of good old blighty.

    But those days are over. We have guidelines and consistency now, so we never have to worry again.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2198 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 12:45 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 12:45 p.m.
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    Yeah I get the whole continental refs thing.

    Having different explicit guidelines seems a different level. Maybe it was always this and just more publicised now.

    Take the point on rules v guidelines, but is a fine line when it means last night would definitely not have been handball in premiership but was last night.

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    Guru
    Squad 1369 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 1 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 1 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Yeah I get the whole continental refs thing.

    Having different explicit guidelines seems a different level. Maybe it was always this and just more publicised now.

    Take the point on rules v guidelines, but is a fine line when it means last night would definitely not have been handball in premiership but was last night.

    We grew up with a constant refrain of “that would never be a penalty/yellow/red card in England” when watching European competitions.

    Case in point, Kenny Burns’ stats
    Old First Division 2 yellow cards in 136 games (or >12000 mins playing time)
    European Cup 4 yellow cards in 14 games (or 1200mins)

    I’m not a statistician but that’s a lot more frequent.

    I feel a bit sorry for Newcastle but Gordon got away with one earlier and PSG were profligate last night. There have been bigger miscarriages of justice in football.

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:08 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:08 p.m.
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    i.imgur.com/wkM2MS3.png

    These are the games I have available to watch. Can you guess which one I've gone for?

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    Simon
    Squad 6610 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:14 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:14 p.m.
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    Ipswich v Milwall, I expect.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2427 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:14 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:14 p.m.
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    Commentaires en Français, presumably

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:17 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:17 p.m.
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    What does this have to do with us?

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/67477218

    We finished above Everton, and if you voided all of Everton's results from last season we'd still finish 17th because Bournemouth and West Ham didn't collect enough points from them to drop beneath us, so it's not about the prize money.

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:17 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:17 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    Ipswich v Milwall, I expect.

    Correct. Proper football.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2427 posts
    29 Nov 2023, 8:22 p.m. 29 Nov 2023, 8:22 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    What does this have to do with us?

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/67477218

    We finished above Everton, and if you voided all of Everton's results from last season we'd still finish 17th because Bournemouth and West Ham didn't collect enough points from them to drop beneath us, so it's not about the prize money.

    My guess is that "may face" and "possible" are extrapolations based on the teams that brought the thing up in the first place, rather than looking at what actually happened.

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