I see Everton's points deduction resilience lasted all of 2 minutes but bugger me what a goal.
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Incredible. Alejandro Garnacho pulling off a great Rooney-bicycle-kick impersonation.
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..just about the best goal I've seen for a long time. not just the finish...perfection from the ball out from the back.
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Don’t think there’s any possible VAR process that wouldn’t be against the spirit of football. Think you favour manager appeals but the idea of anyone “appealing” for a decision in football is against the spirit - referees make their own decisions independently, they aren’t cricket umpires who are there to adjudicate if the batsman is beastly enough not to walk.
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Brilliant goal. The cocky fucker did the Ronaldo celebration which was the ultimate piss take. I am happy for Everton to go down but Scott McTominay is a giant Bellend though. So I will be pulling for Rashford and no other bugger.
Would be nice if Utd could injure Doucorre for next week too.
Chicago: Happy with current circumstances.
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I'm watching the game on an iPad in the kitchen while doing some ironing. When the goal went in, I instinctively shouted 'oh my god', but at what must have been a significantly louder volume than I realised.
Cue Mrs BW dashing in thinking a bad accident had happened (presume burn-related). Not sure she was too impressed when she released the exclamation was in response to a football match.
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Nope. I have said all along, since back before it was introduced, that it should be exactly what it says that it is. An assistant referee, watching video feeds to check angles not available to the referee that make them look bad on the telly...and communicating with the referee by headset. Exactly as actual assistant referees pitchside do. And that's it. I am actually totally against stopping play and re-refereeing games. That's actually against it, not saying that I'm against it, and then making sure that it is bound to happen because of the process used.
The process that I advocate, and always have, is not against the spirit of the game.
You might recall that I have also long been an advocate of independent timekeeping.
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Similar. I've barely met a person who isn't. Sooner the better. Though .... It can't be an excuse for letting the pace of the game be dictated by one of the teams as Brighton did yesterday. A few times they were time wasting the referee just pointed at his watch. Great. You're adding it on. But you're giving the opposition time to catch their breath and get organised whereas we just want to play.
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There needs to be a real commitment to keeping football as a game where play is continuous. Unfortunately many recent developments in the laws, and their interpretation, mean that it's as stop start as armoured rounders these days. Complete with tea breaks.
If you have a game where you are constantly stopping play (contact is a foul: No it isn't!), and deferring protracted decision making to idiots, in order to make fools of themselves, then you have a real problem on that front. As far as I can see there is no appetite from the decision makers to actually keep the football as the important thing.
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Some of these Everton players seem to be starting to put a marker down for a winter break.
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I hope Everton finish like this next Saturday.
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"Spirit of football" has the referee as the decision maker - you've just introduced Ant and Dec watching on TV to check his homework in real time and overrule him. The linesman can advise but the referee likely has a sense of what might have happened and can make his decision based on what the linesman tells him. If a voice in his head is telling him that, say, Gibbs-White was held and it's going to look bad based on the penalty you've just given, he's handing over control to a third party.
VAR is making the game worse and just needs to go, no compromises, no alterations. And if that means we lose 3 or 4 -1 to Brighton because the referee made a bad decision, sobeit.
Take an example from a game Forest weren't involved in - the Young/Martial penalty yesterday. Referee saw it in real time and decided (wrongly but probably based on Martial's reputation) that it was a dive. If a VAR official tells him that it was actually a clear trip, that's pretty obviously the ref being overruled.
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It even comes down to the notion that VAR gets an offside right when someone is deemed to be a millimetre the wrong side of a defender. That's not right. The offside rule wasn't there for such minute detail, it was to stop you goal hanging and getting an advantage from being clear of the defence. If you have to draw a line to check it you're not offside.
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Russ nailed it earlier though, VAR is there for overseas supporters who've been watching EPL and soccer more and more in recent times, betting and fantasy footballing.
They are happy to sit at home and watch similar replays to the VAR officials and be entertained by the process.
It's not gonna change as they don't want it to. And they are far more important than the UK fans (watching live or on TV).
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No I haven't. I've given him an assistant referee with a different view, and exactly the same status as the other assistants, with the decision making entirely with the referee.
It's not my fault if you can't see the difference between what I actually said, and what you have been conditioned to expect.
Read it again.
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"They'll give this as a penalty, but it's not"
"Penalty"
"Because they don't know what they are doing"
