• 26 Nov 2023, 2:34 p.m.

    Spurs go one-up. Villa kick-off and immediately equalise - Watkins glances in a fine cross from the left. Goal given.

    More than three minutes of VAR checks later (complete with multiple lines drawn and a credible argument possible either way), it's decided that the referee made a 'clear and obvious error' - goal chalked off. What a joke.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 2:57 p.m.

    Brilliant equalising goal for Villa right on half-time which survives the VAR check.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:08 p.m.

    It's ruining the game. Not the decisions themselves (which are no better, and no worse, than an experienced and competent set of match officials would come up with), but the interminable delay of game, disruption to the spirit of football as a continuous action, and the disenfranchisement of the fans in the ground.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:11 p.m.

    There's your issue. Fans in the ground are of far less value to football than the gamblers and fantasy football players forking out billions every year to the betting companies who in turn hand over millions in advertising contracts, and the gamblers and fantasy football players hate nothing more than losing their bet or their pretend game on the basis of a refereeing decision.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:12 p.m.

    Offside doesn’t have the clear and obvious requirement because it’s regarded as being a matter of fact.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:16 p.m.

    Just to be clear. That's not my issue. That's footballs issue. In trying to find their place as a side effect of a money game.

    I'm not thick. They made it clear to me that they were ruining football, and fucking me off as irrelevant. So I've accepted their choice and not paid a penny towards anything that would benefit them since. If everybody voted with their wallet, they would change. Unfortunately most of the world are compliant sheep, and it ain't changing for the better any time soon.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:18 p.m.

    Which you only had to watch their complete bewilderment trying to imply a 3D position from 2D pictures, none from a favourable angle, as absolute complete bollocks...and that's before we get into frame rates and determining actually when a ball leaves a players foot.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:21 p.m.

    Yeah, VAR is bullocks but there’s no need to invent criticisms.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:40 p.m.

    'Ben Davies misses a header from barely a yard out', says Sky's commentary.

    Reply shows him jumping from, and landing back down on, the six-yard line.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:48 p.m.

    Fair enough, I didn't know that. It's still ridiculous when 60,000 people have got to sit and wait for an offside decision to be made retrospectively. If it's taking that long to decide, go with the initial on-field call and get on with the fucking game.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:52 p.m.

    The major flaw with that is that the onfield officals are not making calls - partly by edict to let the phase of play complete unless there is something beyond obvious.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 3:59 p.m.

    There was a clear on-field decision here - goal. So not sure why we needed more than four minutes of deliberation (which even by the end could still be argued either way) to overturn.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 4:01 p.m.

    Understand Forest's last two results have been disappointing but the three points and clean sheet taken off Villa are looking increasingly impressive. Not many will beat them this season.

    Soaked up loads of Spurs pressure this afternoon then took control, equalised, went in front, and now look like holding them out.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 4:03 p.m.

    This is exactly why I say that the process under which VAR is used, is completely against the spirit of football.

  • 26 Nov 2023, 4:34 p.m.

    I see Everton's points deduction resilience lasted all of 2 minutes but bugger me what a goal.