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Russ
25 Apr 2023
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    Dean
    Squad 181 posts
    23 Nov 2023, 10:46 a.m. 23 Nov 2023, 10:46 a.m.
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    There is this Defoe to Spurs from Portsmouth one being floated about now, he's been retired 18 months and the transfer was 14 years ago. Nothing like being on the ball.

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    23 Nov 2023, 1:04 p.m. 23 Nov 2023, 1:04 p.m.
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    We'll back to investigating Cloughie's motorway service stops at this rate!

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    23 Nov 2023, 1:08 p.m. 23 Nov 2023, 1:08 p.m.
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    "That's a bag of ginsters, young man."

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    24 Nov 2023, 9 a.m. 24 Nov 2023, 9 a.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    I saw suggestions on X that we are unlikely to have been compliant in the last three year period we were in the Championship. Any thoughts on that Steve? I know you're quite on the ball with the finances.

    I doubt it. Losses in the last 3 years in the Championship totalled £88M, basically £21M in 19/20 and 20/21 and then £46M in 22/23. Of that last figure though £20M was promotion bonuses which are excluded from FFP. Then you have to do a bit of guesswork as there are no published figures for academy costs, women's football and other deductible items, but say the academy is £5M a year and you also have about £2M of depreciation (investment on infrastructure) and other bis and pieces, that takes you to a overall FFP loss for the 3 years of £51M.

    You are only allowed to lose £39M over 3 years in the Championship so it looks bad, but in these years we had the whole Covid thing which included a whole season behind closed doors. The EFL implemented rules that allowed you to write off a total of £12.5M of losses against Covid for this 3 year period which just bring sus nicely under. It is tight but I think we would have made it, especially as this ownership have been very big on FFP since arriving here and I'm sure will have been keeping a close eye on the limits. We have always been close to the line but that suggests we have always understood the rules well.

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    24 Nov 2023, 12:17 p.m. 24 Nov 2023, 12:17 p.m.
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    That sounds remarkably like you're accusing the club of exercising a fair degree of financial competence, which is a bold claim to make about Forest.

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    24 Nov 2023, 12:27 p.m. 24 Nov 2023, 12:27 p.m.
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    I guess it depends on your definition, but I'm pretty sure they have a good eye on FFP, how it works and balancing within it, so they definitely tick some boxes there. Mariankis also has pockets big enough to absorb the huge waste of money through 4 years of going nowhere waiting for a miracle, which fortunately happened in year 5, which helps too and was a problem for some predecessors.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2648 posts
    24 Nov 2023, 1:17 p.m. 24 Nov 2023, 1:17 p.m.
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    Don't we just not need to be in the top, say, 10% of hat stand?

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    24 Nov 2023, 1:19 p.m. 24 Nov 2023, 1:19 p.m.
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    Depends how much standing on a chair, waving our arms, and shouting "look at all this shiny" that we do.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2214 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 1:10 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 1:10 p.m.
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    Manchester City are ludicrously good. Movement, technique, composure, strength, pace, press, controlled aggression - they've got the lot. Pretty much unplayable.

    Liverpool are one of the best sides in this league and they look a couple of levels off what City are showing.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2198 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 1:26 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 1:26 p.m.
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    Those 115 financial irregularities buy you something.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2214 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 1:27 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 1:27 p.m.
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    Would appear so.

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 4:06 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 4:06 p.m.
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    The second Bournemouth goal v Sheff U was really something. The BBC commentary reckons Sheffield United have been awful, and it really does look here like Foderingham has given up.

    streamin.me/v/4c7c73b9

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    Simon
    Squad 6609 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 4:44 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 4:44 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    The second Bournemouth goal v Sheff U was really something. The BBC commentary reckons Sheffield United have been awful, and it really does look here like Foderingham has given up.

    streamin.me/v/4c7c73b9

    Fire up the 12 point klaxon.

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 5:12 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 5:12 p.m.
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    Luton get their first win and Doucure stretchered off for Palace in the same game.

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    Simon
    Squad 6609 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 5:13 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 5:13 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    Luton get their first win and Doucure stretchered off for Palace in the same game.

    Do Everton not count?

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    Russ
    Squad 6436 posts
    25 Nov 2023, 5:20 p.m. 25 Nov 2023, 5:20 p.m.
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    First home win, I guess.

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