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Russ
25 Apr 2023
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    tricky
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    8 Oct 2023, 8:40 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:40 p.m.
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    The ten years when he's won fuck all, and the opportunity cost of the other players that haven't happened because of him?

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:45 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:45 p.m.
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    @Dave_Rave has written:
    @jamesob has written:

    He's scored more goals in his first 6 games than anybody in the history of the Bundesleiga ever, including Gerd Muller and Lewandowski. So this is a very silly debate at the moment. Come back in 3 months and we'll speak again when there may or may not be more empirical evidence to answer this question.

    Kane scored 8 goals in his first 6 Bundesliga games. Stuttgart's Guirassy scored 10. So that's bollocks, innit.

    Guirassy has been playing the Bundesleiga since 2016 and he scored about 6 in total all season in his first season so errrr no. He also didn't score 8 in his first 6 even this season.

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    Simon
    Squad 6609 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:45 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:45 p.m.
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    @Dave_Rave has written:
    @jamesob has written:

    He's scored more goals in his first 6 games than anybody in the history of the Bundesleiga ever, including Gerd Muller and Lewandowski. So this is a very silly debate at the moment. Come back in 3 months and we'll speak again when there may or may not be more empirical evidence to answer this question.

    Kane scored 8 goals in his first 6 Bundesliga games. Stuttgart's Guirassy scored 10. So that's bollocks, innit.

    Maybe it’s bollocks but Guirassy’s first Bundesliga season was 22/23 and he scored 2 in his first 6, so he doesn’t beat Kane.

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:47 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:47 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    The ten years when he's won fuck all, and the opportunity cost of the other players that haven't happened because of him?

    Do you really think Tottenham would have won more without him? We will never know but let's see how many trophies they win over the next 10 years without him and then compare notes.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 3009 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:48 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:48 p.m.
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    I've just edited my previous post to acknowledge that's this season, not 1st ever. But he did score 10 in his 1st 6 this season. And following yesterday's hat trick he's up to 13.

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:50 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:50 p.m.
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    I messed that up too, he started in 2016 but he only played 7 games and scored zero.

    We are meant to be interested in him, incidentally.

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:56 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:56 p.m.
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    He runs, there doesn't seem to be much back post lurking, and he gets substituted.

    He's no kane.

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:57 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:57 p.m.
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    Has a 17M release clause too apparently. We and Fulham are said to be in the running, could be January's version of CHO / Willian.

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 8:59 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 8:59 p.m.
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    @jamesob has written:

    Do you really think Tottenham would have won more without him? We will never know but let's see how many trophies they win over the next 10 years without him and then compare notes.

    I don't have a view. I do know that they won nothing with him. Quite unlucky of them to have the best striker in the world, and win nowt.

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 9:02 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 9:02 p.m.
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    Because of or despite...

    Nobody thinks he's the best striker in the world anyway.

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    RC
    Squad 1511 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 9:03 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 9:03 p.m.
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    As much as I enjoy a good bit of Kane bashing, it does overlook the work the new coach at Spudz is doing.

    Torn between hoping they fuck it up royally, and at least it isn’t an oil club.

    I hope they fuck it up.

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 9:14 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 9:14 p.m.
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    @jamesob has written:

    Nobody thinks he's the best striker in the world

    You wont get any argument from me. If you are looking for a false nine cum penalty specialist you could do worse though.

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 9:25 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 9:25 p.m.
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    Over the last 10 years, Benzema, Ibrahimovic, C Ronaldo, Mbappe, Haaland already, Suarez, Lewandowski all ahead comfortably (and those are just the ones I can remember). But he's not light years behind that lot and they all played for much bigger and better clubs than Spurs.
    (and they didn't make them better they just were already).

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 9:31 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 9:31 p.m.
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    Quote from Transworld express on the radiogram just now "the only shot Kane has had on target in the last three games was a penalty".

    Has he mistaken the bundesliga for a summer international tournament?

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    Jeff_Albertson
    Squad 1231 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 9:56 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 9:56 p.m.
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    @jamesob has written:

    He's scored more goals in his first 6 games than anybody in the history of the Bundesleiga ever, including Gerd Muller and Lewandowski. So this is a very silly debate at the moment. Come back in 3 months and we'll speak again when there may or may not be more empirical evidence to answer this question.

    How many were penalties?
    How many penalties did Muller or Lewandowski take in those first six games?

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    tricky
    Board 7350 posts
    8 Oct 2023, 10:01 p.m. 8 Oct 2023, 10:01 p.m.
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    I see that top professionals at the peak of their powers missed an offside in la liga, to incorrectly award Barcelona (who have a history of paying referees for consultancy) a goal.

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