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Russ
25 Apr 2023
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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4128 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 8:54 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 8:54 p.m.
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    Cock.
    (Fester's penalty, not Jim).

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2621 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 8:55 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 8:55 p.m.
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    It was coming. Hull have been wide open second half.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4128 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 8:56 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 8:56 p.m.
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    Double cock.
    Bye bye 10-1.
    The bookies always know. Apparently.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2621 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 8:56 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 8:56 p.m.
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    2-1 Leicester. Fuck sake.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4128 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:01 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:01 p.m.
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    Hull in a handcart.

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    Russ
    Squad 7120 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:04 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:04 p.m.
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    Doubly annoying, it puts Wrexham in the playoffs.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4128 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:05 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:05 p.m.
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    2-2.
    Hull of Kintyre...

    Always liked Oli McBurnie.
    Ahem.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2736 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:12 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:12 p.m.
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    @steve has written:

    Chelsea look terrible if we're looking for another win somewhere

    I need someone smarter than me to tell me if this is as bad as it seems to be
    Chelsea's complicated finances and massive liability

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2621 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:27 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:27 p.m.
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    @Mangetout has written:
    @steve has written:

    Chelsea look terrible if we're looking for another win somewhere

    I need someone smarter than me to tell me if this is as bad as it seems to be
    Chelsea's complicated finances and massive liability

    AI says...

    🧠 The core idea
    This isn’t just about Chelsea Football Club — it’s about how modern football ownership has shifted from billionaire-funded clubs to complex, debt-driven private equity structures.
    At the centre is a £410m loan from Ares Management to Chelsea’s parent company (22 Holdco). But it’s not a normal loan.

    💣 The “hidden bomb”: PIK debt
    The most important concept here is Payment-in-Kind (PIK):

    Chelsea’s owners don’t pay interest in cash

    Instead, interest is added to the loan

    So the debt grows exponentially over time

    👉 Roughly:

    Start: ~£410m

    By 2033: potentially £850m–£1bn+

    This is why the article calls it a “ticking time bomb”. The cost is delayed, not avoided.

    🏗️ Why structure it this way?
    The ownership (Clearlake/Boehly) put the debt above the football club, in a parent company.
    That achieves two things:
    1. Avoids financial rules
    Rules like Premier League PSR look mainly at the club itself.
    So:

    The club appears “healthier”

    The debt sits elsewhere

    1. Protects short-term spending
      Because there are no cash interest payments:

    More money can go to transfers, wages, and expansion

    It enables aggressive growth (players + multi-club model)

    🎯 Why Ares agreed to this
    Ares isn’t just lending money — it’s playing a high-risk, high-reward game.
    They get:
    🔁 Huge interest (12–13%)
    Very high returns compared to normal loans
    🎟️ Potential ownership (the big one)
    Through:

    Warrants

    Conversion rights

    If things go wrong, Ares could:
    👉 Convert debt into equity
    👉 Take ownership stakes in the club structure

    ⚖️ The trade-off
    This structure creates a massive gamble:
    If it works:

    Stadium redevelopment succeeds

    Revenues grow (TV, commercial, matchday)

    Club value skyrockets
    ➡️ Debt becomes manageable or refinanced

    If it fails:

    Revenues don’t grow fast enough

    No Champions League income, etc.
    ➡️ Debt explodes
    ➡️ Ares can take control

    🧩 Bigger picture (why this matters beyond Chelsea)
    This is being framed as a model for the future of football finance:

    Private equity + private credit entering sport

    Clubs treated like financial assets

    Increasing use of:

    leveraged buyouts

    hybrid debt/equity instruments

    It’s a shift away from:

    Roman Abramovich-style ownership
    toward:

    Wall Street-style structuring

    🧭 Bottom line
    The article’s main conclusion is:
    👉 Chelsea are effectively borrowing heavily from the future
    👉 The real cost is deferred until 2033
    👉 And Ares holds the leverage if things go wrong

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    Lessred
    Squad 2273 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:29 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:29 p.m.
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    Isn't this the same as the glazers did with Man U

    It reads like a student has read all the jargon and splurged it on the page to try and make it impenetrable.

    But to be fair I gave up reading it

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4128 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:31 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:31 p.m.
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    If Hull now score a winner you can thank me for cashing out on a £3 profit.
    Slightly surprised that the cash out was a profit with only 3 minutes left.

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    Dave_Rave
    Squad 4128 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:46 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:46 p.m.
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    The BBC text commentary has quoted the BBC Radio Lestah commentator.
    'Boos, apathy and malaise'.
    Not sure if that's a Poundshop Earth, Wind and Fire tribute act or 3 of the 4 Fossemen of the apocalypse.

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    dj_bobbins
    Squad 1067 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:51 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:51 p.m.
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    Some beautiful scenes on the telly. Enjoyed that.

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    Russ
    Squad 7120 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:52 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:52 p.m.
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    Leicester relegated, Coventry champions, Derby virtually guaranteed to miss the playoffs. All on the same glorious evening.

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    dj_bobbins
    Squad 1067 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:52 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:52 p.m.
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    Just needs Marinakis to buy Seagrave this evening

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    Russ
    Squad 7120 posts
    21 Apr 2026, 9:55 p.m. 21 Apr 2026, 9:55 p.m.
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    Only if he turns it into something other than a training ground, I don't want our team touching that polluted and cursed ground.

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