• 22 Sep 2025, 5:44 p.m.

    Kennedy has a lot of ideas but they seem to be aligned with the pharma company that is going to pay him. He is also on testosterone so he is essentially mental right now. All you have to do is watch the Charlie Sheen documentary on netflix and Sheen will admit that not only was he on crack cocaine he was on insane amounts of Testosterone that drove him to madness.

    under Kennedy he wants to ban all childhoods vaccination which ended up with the ousting of the CDC director who said, "what are you fucking crazy", or some words to those effect. The Covid vaccine isn't even available in most states unless you are a vunerable individual and or over 65. So it's safe for them but not the general population? How interesting. Illinois (where i live) told the government to go swivel, which is now devolving into battles within the CDC and health and human services and some states themselves. They were also looking at other. vaccines that they want to take off the market to evaluate. Sounds awfully like the situation with Disney and ABC with Jimmy Kimmel where some companies will have to make concessions in order to make money.... (or pay someone off - wink wink...)

    Welcome to Putin's America.

    Chicago: Paying the price (as in it cost me to have my shots...poor people are fucked...)

    We live in shit times here in the states

  • 22 Sep 2025, 6:04 p.m.

    Presumably the argument is that the benefit outweighs the risk for those groups?

    As a fit and healthy 50 something, I haven't been vaccinated for covid or flu since 2021 because my doctor hasn't suggested I ought to be.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 6:09 p.m.

    I get a covid and flu shot every autumn when they come into stock. Because I can.

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    22 Sep 2025, 6:10 p.m.

    My work provide flu and/or covid shots for those that want them.
    I’ve put myself down for the flu one, but not the covid, unless they’re going to ignore the 3 days off sick I’ll take after the covid shot. They put me on my arse good and proper.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 6:52 p.m.

    Pussy.

    Never had a reaction ever. Although i have never had Covid either which could very well be a factor...

    Chicago: Superhuman.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 6:58 p.m.

    Before covid I used to get flu jabs as a (slightly) vulnerable person. I only got ordinary access to covid jabs, and now don't even get offered a flu jab. Presumably as I've got older, I've got less vulnerable.

    I think health care provision through all the privatised gp's is now all about minimising cost of treatment, rather than giving access to it.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 7:34 p.m.

    Welcome to the world of Peter Thiel human Statistics.

    Chicago: Statistic.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 7:42 p.m.

    I thought one of the major strengths of vaccines was getting the vast majority protected so those who can't get the vaccine and/or have compromised immune systems can benefit from reduced spread.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 7:57 p.m.

    There's some heavy lifting being done here.

    "Protected" in this case, I think (Guru? GURU!), means not subject to acute serious symptoms. Your immune systems is prepared, so the consequences of infection are reduced. This might also mean less transmissible, due to lower level of infection, and milder symptoms (Guru? GURU!).

    But not immune to infection, nor transmission (Guru? GURU!).

    This bit stands though, so you might have been saying the same thing.

    *Imprecisely *

  • 22 Sep 2025, 8 p.m.

    Yes that was the thought behind it when people actually cared about others. Now it's all politics which in itself is insane...

    Chicago: Currently suffering from Brain ache.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 8:37 p.m.

    "Protected" meaning "vaccinated" in this case. Because "herd immunity" means losing all the vulnerable people in order to reach the relevant proportion (not a doctor, virologist or epidemiologist), and the covid virus is still mutating.
    Vaccines don't cure (again...), but with some viruses, they can be carried with a high payload and cause no symptoms, making them excellent spreaders. Vaccines mitigate this, as I understand it. So it's not necessarily your immune system, but just genetic coincidence. So it's still "better" overall, nation-level picture, to get vaccinated.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 8:50 p.m.

    ....well they infect (but the host doesn't notice because of the absence of symptoms) so the immune systems recognises the infection and fights it, reducing the payload...and thus reducing their transmissibility.....so not really a coincidence, or there would be no benefit in vaccinating (Guru? GURU!). but your point broadly remains.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 8:58 p.m.

    If vaccinated, or immune, then the payload doesn't build up as high in the first place. If the immune system has to learn then it takes time. No-one in this conversation believes that vaccines stop infection.
    And the benefit of vaccination is not just for yourself (because, as has been shown, sometimes you get lucky). It's to society and, specifically, those people who aren't protected by a strong immune system or are specifically vulnerable to a particular virus.

  • 22 Sep 2025, 11:34 p.m.

    I got the first Covid jab relatively early (March 21, they offered it to teachers) and it was a drive up. Jab instantly hurt and I felt ropey for days afterward.
    Had two or three since and they’ve been fine. Some people I know felt fine on the first, rough on the second.
    The second time - of two that I’m aware - I tested positive (sometime in early 23?) I was close to taking myself to hospital it messed me up so much, whereas the first (early 22) I felt relatively okay.
    Really seems to be a crapshoot for some.
    Felt like I’ve had something similar in the years since but it could also just be aging/other bugs/ennui, so who knows?
    I do feel much, much more tired day to day in general but that might be the state of the world as much as anything. Getting up at 5:20 every day doesn’t help.

    Resident Alien: Not a morning person

  • 23 Sep 2025, 8:05 a.m.

    Have always self-insured with pets.. a pair of indoor moggies is as low risk as it gets.

    So, all in, when we lost one of them to heart failure it cost about $8k in tests and emergency care to find out he was definitely going to die.. and now the other one has bronchitis, and around $7k sunk to find that out (but at least with her, we’re improving and extending life).

    Self-insuring still was, and is, the rational choice. But that is all gonna sting for a fair while.

  • 26 Sep 2025, 5:23 p.m.

    Second day in a row of finding a dead pigeon in the back garden. Think there must be a new cat in the street.