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BrettWilliams
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    JRs_Cigarette
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    18 Feb 2024, 8:39 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 8:39 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    How does it make sense that it costs more to buy a phone from the network operator?

    Think here it's more seen as a financing deal/loan to buy the phone for folks who can't afford it outright and so there's effectively an interest charge.

    I pay £51 a month for 4 sims with 100GB data and unlimited voice/texts. 5G allegedly but that is just a fake concept in my experience.

    And it's on O2 which means 500MB of data would be enough as the signal is shit pretty much everywhere I go.

    Will be switching back to the EE network soon as contract ends (probably to 1p Mobile that tricky mentions).

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    JimShady
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    18 Feb 2024, 8:41 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 8:41 p.m.
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    @Russ - presumably because the number of masts needed to cover your huge country means that scaling up costs a ton of money.

    I’m on Smartty at the moment. This deal. No contract SIM only month to month. Then yes, I’ll buy a phone outright and stick the SIM in it.

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    Russ
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    18 Feb 2024, 9:09 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 9:09 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    @Russ - presumably because the number of masts needed to cover your huge country means that scaling up costs a ton of money.

    That's absolutely how we justify it (in case you hadn't twigged, I work for one of the big 3 carriers in Canada). That said, we have significant infrastructure sharing agreements so that carriers use each other's towers, 90% of our population lives within a one hour drive of the border, and 80% lives in an urban centre. So it's not like we need to flood wire the country the way you guys do.

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    noodle
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    18 Feb 2024, 9:11 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 9:11 p.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    @Russ - presumably because the number of masts needed to cover your huge country means that scaling up costs a ton of money.

    Based in Russ’ numbers, Australia has BYOD plans that are similar to the UK.. so it’s probably not that.

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    RC
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    18 Feb 2024, 9:17 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 9:17 p.m.
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    @noodle has written:
    @JimShady has written:

    @Russ - presumably because the number of masts needed to cover your huge country means that scaling up costs a ton of money.

    Based in Russ’ numbers, Australia has BYOD plans that are similar to the UK.. so it’s probably not that.

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    Jake
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    18 Feb 2024, 9:22 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 9:22 p.m.
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    I pay £6.95/month on Lebara - Vodafone. 15GB.

    None of the networks here are anywhere near the quality and spread of coverage I had in Thailand where I paid £30/year for unlimited 10Mbps. I could've got unlimited 20Mbps fir a bit more, but it was unnecessary, the 10Mbps was nearly always what I got.

    Here if I go into Hereford on a Saturday, the speeds die to nearly zero. Same for my wife on real Vodafone and daughter on ID Mobile (which we got 30GB for £7/month, Three MVNO).

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    Russ
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    18 Feb 2024, 9:30 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 9:30 p.m.
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    @Jake has written:

    Here if I go into Hereford on a Saturday, the speeds die to nearly zero. Same for my wife on real Vodafone and daughter on ID Mobile (which we got 30GB for £7/month, Three MVNO).

    This will likely be because in Hereford I presume they still stand around in awe at the magic lights that come on without needing to have a flame put to them, and cower in fear from the big metal dragons that fly overhead.

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    tricky
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    18 Feb 2024, 10:05 p.m. 18 Feb 2024, 10:05 p.m.
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    Hold on. The good people of Hereford have stopped their cave dwelling ways, and come out blinking into the light? Since when did this modern nonsense start?

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    tricky
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    19 Feb 2024, 12:43 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 12:43 p.m.
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    Given the recent price rises to 1pmobile, I've been having a look at network ownership and MVNO's to work out what I'm doing going forward. All a bit worrying. What's the experience of smarty (in terms of coverage and data speeds) @JimShady ?

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    JimShady
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    19 Feb 2024, 1:35 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 1:35 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    What's the experience of smarty (in terms of coverage and data speeds) @JimShady ?

    All fine so far with regard speed, service, signal etc. They use the Three network if you want to look at the Three coverage map.

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    tricky
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    19 Feb 2024, 1:45 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 1:45 p.m.
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    "Three" the chinese network, is merging with "vodafone" the traditional business network...should be right up my street. I was just curious about real world experience given that I have never used either of those networks...and that there are lies, damn lies, and mobile phone coverage maps.

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    JimShady
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    19 Feb 2024, 1:55 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 1:55 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    "Three" the chinese network, is merging with "vodafone" the traditional business network...should be right up my street. I was just curious about real world experience given that I have never used either of those networks...and that there are lies, damn lies, and mobile phone coverage maps.

    If I'm being really picky there are 1-2 streets near me, which are in a valley and the reception can be a bit hit and miss. But that's a 100m stretch of road and it's the only problem I can recall. Oh - there was totally no signal for about 2 hours a few months ago. Nationally I think. That's all I've got.

    I'd do a speed test right now and post the results, but my phone won't turn on as discussed ....

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    tricky
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    19 Feb 2024, 2:20 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 2:20 p.m.
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    Just out of curiosity, I turned off my phone wifi and ran a speed test. librespeed.org returned the result "This is satire, right?"

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    19 Feb 2024, 4:09 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 4:09 p.m.
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    Just turned off my WiFi and did that speed check.

    0.22 Mbps.

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    JimShady
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    19 Feb 2024, 4:11 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 4:11 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    0.22 Mbps.

    Wow. That’s slow. Mine is 3.7 Mbps on Vodafone 4G, and that’s not good at all. Yours is atrocious. I’m currently in Barnsley though. I guess there’s lots of spare bandwidth given they’re still using string and carrier pigeons.

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    Charlie
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    19 Feb 2024, 4:21 p.m. 19 Feb 2024, 4:21 p.m.
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    7.74 indoors in Southwell. Vodafone 4G.

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