Let's Mackem lose! (A match thread)

Just to clarify the booing at the end was not for the referee.

Ange will take us down.

Certainly a distinct possibility..

I'm not sure how many ways I need to say things like "so far he doesn't look worth it" as a clear statement that I'm not writing him off but so far not impressed, but you read what you want to read king.

Also, I know it annoys you how often I'm right about players. You were still defending Freuler to the end as I recall. I'd apologize but I'm not actually sorry.

Then give him some time before doing your early review.

You’re right. You’ve never been wrong about a player. It’s only a matter of time before Marinakis puts the call in.

On performance so far I'd fancy myself against Edu.

Which signings were solely down to Edu?

As anything I’ve read suggests there are a number of people involved.

That really was fucking dog dirt. Amazed to see the BBC report suggesting their keeper made some big saves. Awful. We are in big trouble.

I’m thinking we might as well just get rid now. Most thought it was a bad appointment, and results are showing it is a bad appointment. Hopefully he will be gone before too much damage is done.

We aren’t getting anything from Newcastle, Chelsea or Muff. Then we have Man Utd at home. The boos will ring out as we lose again and he’ll be gone that evening.

I read that report and thought must have been written by someone who didn't actually watch the game!

The commentary team on Sky said we’d played well but not took our chances. No idea what the pundits said as I wasn’t putting self through that.

Their keeper was a tremendous footballer with the ball at his feet. Can't recall him making a save that my daughter wouldn't have made.

I guess if you take that game in isolation maybe you would say that. But on the back of the last 7 games I'd say it's bollocks.

We were shit and can't break a team down who sit in and can't hold a lead to save our lives.

If Ange is here still at Christmas then we are down. Sure you can say he needs time to implement the system. But we don't have the luxury of pissing around for three months losing each week.

Well we got Nuno-ed again.

Xhaka was excellent for them. The first half was absolutely toothless. We had players come for the ball and then pass it sideways and backwards. No Urgency. Graeme Le Saux was dead on when he said, "Everyone is coming to the ball. Forest's play is so ponderous". Last season - it was get the ball and go. This team is being asked to play to control the ball and the possession and it allows the opposition to just get behind the ball and just defend. No one is running behind the lines..

Tim Howard also said, "I hate managers who say, "this is the way I want to play and will get fired doing it if I have to. No you have to be pragmatic. Forest have been asked to completely change the way they play and it doesn't suit them".

I totally agree with all of the above. The second half we got better and Hutchinson looked lively and offered a lot more than N'Doye who was atrocious and Bakwa who unfortunately was ineffective.

Special mention for Zinchenko., He is an horrific defender. Regardless of how good he is on the ball, he is a terrible fit for this team. We actually almost lost 2-0 when their player found himself walking though our back line with only Sels saving us. Again, Zinchenko just trotting back.

Neco was excellent. Everyone else not so much. At least we picked up the tempo in the second half and made it mildly watchable but Sunderland kept us out pretty well. Their goalkeeper is good. Very good with Balls into the box.

But the point remains. Ange ball if it's passing the ball slowly around like prats in the hope that the opposition let's us in by making a mistake then he is deluded. We are very very easy to defend against at the moment.

Ah, let's hope it's a bad day at the office. Thursday should tell us something.

Chicago: Missing Nuno and Elanga.

EDIT: Special mention for our press. Sun'land passing slowly out from the keeper. 35 year old Chris wood pressing by himself with no hope of getting the ball. Forest passing out of the back, 4 Mackem players playing up. We got lucky a few times. I honestly not sure what Ange told them to do but that looked rather strange.

Seeing as the long ball and long throw is back in vogue.

Pint of wine? Go on. It’ll be a laugh.

Teams started sitting in against us from around March. We've 1 win at home since 1 April. It's not an Ange thing really. It's clearly a players / 'Forest' thing. We can't break teams down who sit in against us. I'd say Ange looks more likely to break that pattern that Nuno in my opinion. I dunno if he will though.

We're worse defensively without Aina and Murillo. And Aina also helps us attack.

Nonetheless that's a terrible result. And the observations here don't sound encouraging about the performance.

I think it's easier to be optimistic when you don't watch and are far away.