• dj_bobbinspanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    Marinakis on the socials....

    “Today is a day for celebration, because after thirty years Nottingham Forest is now guaranteed to be competing on the European stage once again, a promise I made to our supporters when we achieved promotion!

    With two more games to go in the Premier League, we must keep believing and keep dreaming, right to the final kick in the final game. We are extremely proud and close to Nuno and the team, and we must all celebrate the historic achievements of this season.

    Everybody- coaching staff, players, supporters and including myself- we were frustrated around the injury of Taiwo and the medical staff’s misjudgement on Taiwo’s ability to continue the game. This is natural, this is a demonstration of the passion we feel for our Club.

    Let’s all be grateful, passionate and keep on dreaming!”

  • trickylens
    6 days ago

    There was the undermining of the previous manager, to get glory (and what he wanted, rather than what the fans wanted).

    He's an unpleasant despot, with a lot of money, and as much ego. Not really my idea of 'good'.

    P.S. I don't think it should be encouraged for owners to show 'passion'. It's not the quality I want to see from them. Given that he doesn't actually currently own or control the club (because of the blind trust stuff to pretend that he doesn't), and performs no official function, shouldn't he be banned from football the way any other no-mark who encroaches on the pitch, and threatens a participant, would be?

    Or are we just happy that our laws, and the tradition and values of our national game, have been traded away, and rich people can do whatever the fuck that they want with it?

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    We're playing in Europe again, in an era where it's never been more difficult to qualify. I can sympathize with your distaste as to the direction of the game, but I'm not going to be upset that our owner plays it better than any we've had in decades.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    As to the SSC thing, of course we all love the man for what he achieved. The owner thought he could find someone who could do better. Then he did. It's hard to argue with results.

  • trickylens
    6 days ago

    The game hasn't been what it is now for decades. So previous comparisons are not very pertinent. As a for example - multi-club ownership.

    I have no problem with an owner changing the coach/manager (well I do, but I have no say in the matter, like shirts, badges, where a team plays, how it does business, what it charges, the list goes on). Personally I prefer to see a sporting team that I endorse operate with a degree of integrity. Not at the whim, and to the standards, of an individual.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    Ok, but in the context of their respective times, it's pretty inarguable that he's the most successful owner post Clough.

  • trickylens
    6 days ago

    There wasn't an owner under Clough. So you might argue that the problem we've been observing is 'owners'.

  • JRs_Cigarettepanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    Eh? Win against West Ham and we definitely have something to play for in last game. Other results need to happen too, but we have two games for that to occur.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    Big issue with that is Villa play Spurs just before their Euro final, so Spurs will be putting out a total second string team. Then they play United shortly after it - they'll be knackered and possibly drunk still. I really can't see Villa dropping any points.

  • trickylens
    6 days ago

    Agreed. like nobody could see shitty dropping points against southampton. It's why we play the games.

    Whatever we do, we have massively overachieved, and given ourselves the chance to improve the playing squad beyond what we could have done otherwise.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    I wish people would stop adding this on to every post about this season. It goes without saying.

  • trickylens
    6 days ago

    I wish fans would stop expressing the self-entitled disappointment of something that is an over-achievement, and that people at the club would stop being nobs. But we are where we are.

  • Psychobelpanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    Then you would be very wrong. Utterly disgraceful from Maranakis and potentially damaging for the club. Despite the excellent PR, "sources" indicate he is deeply unpleasant. You speak to your team behind the scenes, not in front of everyone. Nuno has brought progress and if he gets offers in the Summer, I would want him thinking what a great place the City Ground is to work rather than being a place where a vicious fucker may well try and embarrass me.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    It's got blown out of all proportion by the Sky "machine" and Gary Neville who clearly doesn't like us the last few years. The media have presumed he was having a go at Nuno and that has become the narrative everyone is responding to, rather than actually responding to the facts. I took it as he was waving his arms about in frustration shouting "That referee was fucking shit!" to Nuno who shrugged and said "What can you do?". I really couldn't give a shit about how it looks. Fuck what anyone might think.

  • JRs_Cigarettepanorama_fish_eye
    6 days ago

    I've just come through security at Heathrow with a Forest polo top on and the body scanning chap (Arsenal fan) had a chat with me about whether Nuno was going to be sacked!

  • trickylens
    6 days ago

    Apart from Marinakis and forest, give me another example of an occasion, that you can remember, when an English club owner has gone on the pitch and engaged negatively with his staff in public, during the immediate aftermath of a match.

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