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Leauge Cup R3 - Swansea

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14 Sep 2025
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    steve
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    17 Sep 2025, 9:56 a.m. 17 Sep 2025, 9:56 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    See we lost, though most of the Prem teams did. Not sure whether anyone gets anything out of these games. Do Braintree now look back fondly on the time they beat Forest?

    The theory is that it gives our academy players the benefit of some experience of playing "men's football". In general, the quality of players coming through the academy systems seems to have improved since they went to the current structure, so probably it's working?

    Certainly it's a vastly preferable way to acheive that aim than B teams in the lower leagues.

    We could have them play men's football by letting league clubs develop them in their teams rather than stockpiling kids in Premier League academies as a cash cow for already excessively wealthy clubs.

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    Jake
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    17 Sep 2025, 9:59 a.m. 17 Sep 2025, 9:59 a.m.
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    Yates, McAtee, Hutchinson and the new keeper Victor all feature in the Forest pre-match build up on the socials.

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    Simon
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    17 Sep 2025, 10:09 a.m. 17 Sep 2025, 10:09 a.m.
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    @steve has written:

    We could have them play men's football by letting league clubs develop them in their teams rather than stockpiling kids in Premier League academies as a cash cow for already excessively wealthy clubs.

    You aren't going to see it this way because it offends your principles, but, by concentrating the best young players in the best academies, they get better coaching and become better footballers. But once they get to 19 or 20, they need to play proper football. Putting them in the lower league cup isn't much of a solution, the loan market is probably better.

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    Guru
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    17 Sep 2025, 10:26 a.m. 17 Sep 2025, 10:26 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    Do we think this is AI or just shit? jackarmy.net/2025/09/17/nottingham-forest-the-club-that-time-forgot-but-they-keep-sending-postcards-anyway/

    Possibly both. But if I wanted to gee up the players tonight, I’d get them to read that.

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    steve
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    17 Sep 2025, 10:37 a.m. 17 Sep 2025, 10:37 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @steve has written:

    We could have them play men's football by letting league clubs develop them in their teams rather than stockpiling kids in Premier League academies as a cash cow for already excessively wealthy clubs.

    You aren't going to see it this way because it offends your principles, but, by concentrating the best young players in the best academies, they get better coaching and become better footballers. But once they get to 19 or 20, they need to play proper football. Putting them in the lower league cup isn't much of a solution, the loan market is probably better.

    I think the academy system does give that improvement at the very top level, but the vast majority of its activities are exploitative of a mass, vulnerable population for the development of a very small population and the gain of a smaller select group of clubs. I don't think it's worth it.

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    Mangetout
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    17 Sep 2025, 10:43 a.m. 17 Sep 2025, 10:43 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    Do we think this is AI or just shit? jackarmy.net/2025/09/17/nottingham-forest-the-club-that-time-forgot-but-they-keep-sending-postcards-anyway/

    So... Forest is a normal non-Big 6 football club that he watched for the first time ever last week, and because we got well beaten by one of the best sides in the country, we are there for the taking?
    Cool.
    I'd like us to win by 4 now, ta.

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    tricky
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    17 Sep 2025, 1:32 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 1:32 p.m.
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    @Mangetout has written:

    Forest is a normal non-Big 6 football club that he watched for the first time ever last week

    Got as far in to it as I could.....didn't find any evidence that he watched, or knew anything about football.....although ruddington fish bar now has evidence as to why there is a shortage of chips.

    Of what I managed I found three good reasons to support Forest, and none to support Swansea. He's definitely short on his reasons to support Forest.

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    Resident_Alien
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    17 Sep 2025, 5:22 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 5:22 p.m.
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    The references to a Brazilian left back and Belgian midfielder made me wonder.

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    Simon
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    17 Sep 2025, 5:27 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 5:27 p.m.
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    @Resident_Alien has written:

    The references to a Brazilian left back and Belgian midfielder made me wonder.

    To be fair, Morato played left back on Saturday until Murillo got injured. The only recent Belgian midfielder that I can think of is Mangala. That kind of weird mistake was one of the things that made me think AI because the description as a whole fits our 22/23 team better.

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    dj_bobbins
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    17 Sep 2025, 5:28 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 5:28 p.m.
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    I went back to the top to see when the article was written as the Belgian reference made no sense.

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    JimShady
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    17 Sep 2025, 5:30 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 5:30 p.m.
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    I thought I was just forgetting someone given how many players we have.

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    Russ
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    17 Sep 2025, 6:55 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 6:55 p.m.
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    As expected, a complete change of players. Morato the only starter on Saturday and tonight.

    MGW and Ndoye are the only players selected who featured for their national teams during the last break, both are on the bench.

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    Simon
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    17 Sep 2025, 6:58 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 6:58 p.m.
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    Swansea rub their hands hearing we’ve changed ten players, then see Douglas Luiz, Zinchenko, Hutchinson and McAtee in the team.

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    Dave_Rave
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    17 Sep 2025, 7:01 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 7:01 p.m.
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    Swansea rub their hands together at the prospect of facing a bunch of players who haven't played together before?
    Anyway, I'm torn between a routine no frills 2-0 win and yet another night throwing ourselves at the mercy of The Penalty Gods.

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    Mangetout
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    17 Sep 2025, 7:13 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 7:13 p.m.
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    @Resident_Alien has written:

    The references to a Brazilian left back and Belgian midfielder made me wonder.

    I presumed Morato and that because Sangaré has a French name and was signed from a Dutch team that he just went "near enough".
    Unless he meant free agent Renan Lodi and Mangala, but that really wouldn't fit.

    Anyway, is Kalimuendo the second* coming of Darcheville?

    *Or first coming, given the damp squib of his Forest career

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    chicago
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    17 Sep 2025, 7:45 p.m. 17 Sep 2025, 7:45 p.m.
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    Lodi and Mangala were out Brazilian and Belgy. Clearly the twat/or A.I. lives in the past and isn't updated which makes Skynet a few years from now rather than in the next few months. Daft write up. Doesn't really make sense. I hope the Forest fans just to be faceious sing all night about Europe...

    I think Darcheville was great until his wife was killed in a car crash i believe.

    Anyway, decent line up. Taiwo on the bench as well as Kalimuendo. Looking forward to see Bakwa and Jesus playing together strangely. As you know, I will love Taiwo to come on in the second half and kill it with a massive performance. Why? Because I am a romantic. Would be disappointed if Ange ignored him already. especially when the old cobber is meant to be a man manager.

    Would have liked Abbott and Cunha play today but I guess Morato is cover for Murillo and they want him ready against Bumley.

    Chicago: Not entirely disappointed.

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