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HOWAY THE SPORTSWASHERS!

Ingo
8 Feb 2024
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    tricky
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    12 Feb 2024, 3:15 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 3:15 a.m.
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    No need to worry Donny. We have been assured that the squad is great. We will start battering teams soon, no doubt.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 8:08 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 8:08 a.m.
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    @donnyred has written:

    don't get me started on Yates who can only kick players not the ball.

    Who played the ball for Awoniyi's offside "goal"?

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 8:49 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 8:49 a.m.
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    I know everyone loves the comparison to the equivalent games last season and we are still exactly level on points on that basis. Have, over the course of the season, been 3 points higher (after ManU home and Brentford away) and 4 points lower (after Everton).

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    Seven
    Squad 1459 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 8:53 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 8:53 a.m.
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    Has there been a game in the PL where we have been under so little pressure?

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2188 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 8:55 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 8:55 a.m.
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    I'm going to put it out there, I don't think Murillo is a very good defender.

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    Seven
    Squad 1459 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 8:56 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 8:56 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I'm going to put it out there, I don't think Murillo is a very good defender.

    That’s just plain daft given the amount of superbly timed tackles he puts in during a game.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2425 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 8:59 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 8:59 a.m.
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    @Seven has written:
    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I'm going to put it out there, I don't think Murillo is a very good defender.

    That’s just plain daft given the amount of superbly timed tackles he puts in during a game.

    There's more to defending than well-timed tackles.

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    dj_bobbins
    Squad 894 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 9:06 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 9:06 a.m.
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    We've got no chance of playing football out of the back without Murillo. None. It was evident against Bristols.

    And I think he can and does defend well.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 9:06 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 9:06 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I'm going to put it out there, I don't think Murillo is a very good defender.

    Was just thinking I'd be tempted to go with Niakhate and Omobamidele (or Felipe or even Boly) on Saturday to give us a left/right combination and one that's better able to compete for headers.

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    Jeff_Albertson
    Squad 1231 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 9:32 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 9:32 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I'm going to put it out there, I don't think Murillo is a very good defender.

    Was just thinking I'd be tempted to go with Niakhate and Omobamidele (or Felipe or even Boly) on Saturday to give us a left/right combination and one that's better able to compete for headers.

    Certainly Niakhate struggled a bit with his distribution playing on the RHS of the two.

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    jamesob
    Squad 1603 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 9:41 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 9:41 a.m.
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    Murillo needs to play as a sweeper

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    Ingo
    Squad 2646 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 10:05 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 10:05 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I'm going to put it out there, I don't think Murillo is a very good defender.

    You rabbit people are all nuts.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 10:16 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 10:16 a.m.
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    Also find it interesting that we are still 13/8 for relegation (Luton - evens, Burnley and Sheffield United - are you kidding?), which, I think, would still apply in the case of a points deduction.

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    JimShady
    Squad 3846 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 10:35 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 10:35 a.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    Also find it interesting that we are still 13/8 for relegation (Luton - evens, Burnley and Sheffield United - are you kidding?), which, I think, would still apply in the case of a points deduction.

    Agreed that the bookies odds are a bit weird. They are surely taking into account likely points deductions. But despite that they still think it likely Luton, Blades and Burnley are going down? I'm not so sure.

    They've also got us as more likely to go down than Everton - again - not so sure about that.

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    steve
    Squad 552 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 10:43 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 10:43 a.m.
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    I don't see how you predict it at this point. Surely if we don't get a points deduction Everton get their 10 points back, which takes them clear and leaves us fighting it out with Luton and Palace. If we do get a points deduction that gives Luton some breathing room, but presumably Everton then probably get another points deduction, so we are fighting it out with them and depending how many points we both lose potentially Burnley and Blades too. Given that the clubs all seem spooked by the presence of actual meaningful penalties for PSR and now want to change the rules, it seems most likely they will go for removing points deductions while they reshape the rules to avoid the legal messiness of points deductions leading to relegation, but who knows?

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    12 Feb 2024, 10:43 a.m. 12 Feb 2024, 10:43 a.m.
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    @JimShady has written:

    They've also got us as more likely to go down than Everton - again - not so sure about that.

    Two points behind us with 10 deducted - with no further points deducted, on current points per game they finish with 36, we finish with 33. Given their appeal and both clubs' further charge, their position in comparison to us isn't likely to get worse and could easily get better (yes, they seem to have lost the initial impetus they got from the points deduction but that's potentially just form).

    On the bigger picture, I'd say bookies have a small (or zero) points deduction priced in. If the expectation was 10 or more, there's no way we'd be ahead of Luton (they are also currently on target for 33).

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