• 22 Aug 2025, 10:10 p.m.

    Why not the other fella grow the fuck up and give the successful manager the tools he feels he needs to be more successful?

    There are a lot of moving parts at play here, in this modern game that is related to what we think of as football. They are not better understood by projecting Neanderthal notions of posturing polarisation on them.

  • 22 Aug 2025, 10:18 p.m.

    I think most will agree Nuno has been handed some excellent tools with the squad additions.

    And if he doesn’t like Edu (who does like everyone they work with), I’m not sure he has to come out acting like a prick in press conferences in an effort to get sacked and get a pay off.

    If he’s bothering him that much then maybe walk away. Failing that, he should shut up and crack on with the decent job he is doing.

  • 22 Aug 2025, 10:21 p.m.

    The sky was falling when we sacked SSC and look what happened. For all his success I don't feel the same level of attachment to Nuno. I don't want him to leave but I also worry about his ability to turn us into the kind of next level team our recruitment strategy is clearly aiming for. If not having Adama Traore is a dealbreaker then so be it.

  • 22 Aug 2025, 10:29 p.m.

    But maybe not the tools that he wants, to achieve the things that he wants? I could easily imagine that he wants a strong, fast, proven forward runner. Over a couple of development projects, that while deepening the squad, may not address specific deficiencies, or be first choices.

    We don't know what the nature of any discussions might be, but if he's been told that's what he's getting, and to lump it, then in a free world he's entitled to express his reservations and get sacked for it. Which might be a better career move than to 'fail' with the 'good' players that he's been given, and his career suffer the impact of other peoples choices, that he doesn't believe in.

    He's not the manager for a development project increasing the value of a slew of not ready players. His, and our, success last season was based on old school values. Not on being Brentford or Brighton.

    If someone changes the jobs description, why should he give up any claim on what he's contracted? It's a job. Not slavery. Have you lost your fucking mind?

  • 22 Aug 2025, 10:52 p.m.

    Sorry tricky. But you are wrong. Business evolve as do business models. He needs to be professional. Rule number 1: don’t air your grievances in public. There’s obviously beef with Edu and Nuno for whatever reason. But the interviews he’s given and the statements he’s made are ridiculous

    I just don’t understand what he’s thinking.,He has a reputation for not staying around long. If he doesn’t like the model (multi club, DOF, Marinakis as the final decision maker) then walk away. He worked in Saudi FFS. I’m not holding him up as some sort of ethical Yoda.

    He wants to get fired. If I was his boss, he would get fired for cause. With no payoff.

  • 22 Aug 2025, 10:53 p.m.
  • 22 Aug 2025, 11:50 p.m.

    Is he actually a footballer? I thought he was just a part of the maths.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 12:53 a.m.

    FFS Forest. Can you just not?

    BBC Gossip trash says Ange or Mourinho, both of which sound like atrocious ideas. Come on, EM, get your staff to behave and play nice with each other.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 1:51 a.m.

    Ange or Mourinho sounds awful. And I like Ange more than most people.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 2:04 a.m.

    Mourinho is hardcore Mendez though, right? So if agent-wars is at the root of all this, it would be odd.. I think it’s perhaps just a case of newspapers throwing out the most obvious names they can think of.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 6:57 a.m.

    I just can't see Nuno kicking off simply because Mendes is no longer the super agent of choice, and I'm surprised people are suggesting / buying that as an explanation. More likely he doesn't agree with signing Hutchinson / Luiz (the Joorabchian clients, if I've understood correctly) at the price point / wages and is making a stand.

    I tend to agree that Hutchinson is on the pricey side, and can see an argument that Luiz might be breaking the wage structure, so I can see that side, even if this is a horrible way for Nuno to go about voicing his concerns.

    (If the signings were Mendes clients, I doubt he'd make the same stand... but to me, that's not exactly the same as what some are suggesting.)

  • 23 Aug 2025, 7:05 a.m.

    The general consensus amongst the fanbase when Cooper got the boot was that it was the end and Nuno was awful.

    That didn’t prove to the the case at all.

    I’d rather Nuno had stayed, but he’s clearly not going to be and is trying to engineer his sacking/payoff with these unhelpful interviews.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 7:32 a.m.

    We've got a good start to the fixtures this season. I wish he'd waited until we've at least, hopefully, got a few wins under our belts.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 8:15 a.m.

    But that's the point isn't it?

    If Nuno is attempting to engineer a sacking / payoff, it would appear he's cashing out on his stock rather than gamble on it rising with a couple of wins early on (and it probably won't regardless of the next few results which after W. Ham include relegation favourites and a title challenger).

    Which obviously doesn't help us much, but there it is.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 8:17 a.m.

    Wasn't my opinion, although he's been better than I'd hoped. But I get plenty of stuff wrong, so it's not like I'm predicting disappointment with any confidence.

  • 23 Aug 2025, 8:21 a.m.

    Suspect that's where you started from, and worked back from there. Certainly that's the best explanation for your shoddy argument.

    Cobblers, assumption, and projection.

    Being professional, in his role, is managing up and down, leading, speaking out, challenging, inspiring.

    Not keeping his head down and doing what he's told. This is one of the stupidest things you've said. Professional behaviour depends on the profession. It might involve being elbows deep in someone's brain - but only if you are a neurosurgeon. It's not professional behaviour for an actuary.

    Beef with Edu? Slap him down then homie. Fucks sake.

    What he has expressed is a departure and difference in recruitment profile, and a change in his role in regard to squad building.... With the consequence that his faith in what he has available to him, and support for his plans for the team, he feels have been deeply compromised.

    In one of the head down, do as you're told professions, where people have no agency, voice, or integrity, that might indeed involve keeping your head down and gulping down the shit. In one of the global leadership ones, not so much.

    (Projection) Well that's hardly his fault is it? Try thinking harder, it's not that complicated.