• 8 May 2024, 5:50 p.m.

    It's the only way out, the big six brands fuck off and then a hard reset includes a salary cap.

    I'm away at the moment and saw a family walking through Tenby with 3 kids (not mine). One was in United shirt, one in a City shirt and one in a Liverpool shirt. What a family of cunts.

  • 8 May 2024, 7:09 p.m.

    I hope you told them what they are. They need to know.

  • 8 May 2024, 9:04 p.m.

    Eldest had her Notts away shirt on, that said all that needed to be said.

  • 8 May 2024, 10:17 p.m.

    I wonder how fun it would actually be if you scrapped the statuses of big clubs and underdogs.

    Where's the fun in watching Palace thrash Man United if that's programmed in? (OK, not United. That would always be funny.)

    Imagine a league where Villa or Brentford or Wolves had a realistic chance of winning the league. Is that actually better? Is it?

  • 8 May 2024, 10:44 p.m.

    What have Leeds United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, Derby County, Manchester City, Manchester United, got in common?*

    Yes. I would say better.

    * The nine different clubs to have won the english top flight in my lifetime - prior to the advent of the 'ship. (Ipswich, would be added to that list if you look over a thirty year period, making ten). In the thirty years since the advent of the 'ship it's been shared between seven clubs. Less evenly. Despite liverpools relative dominance of the seventies and eighties. 12 different english managers over thirty years of the end of the equal playing field era. None ( 0 ) since the advent of the 'ship.

  • 8 May 2024, 11:09 p.m.

    I would add I don't think the 30 years of the Prem is a good sample to represent now. The disparities were less in the early period and the lack of PSR rules meant a team like Blackburn could spend big and win it.

    Take the last 10 years and it's much narrower pool of winners and I'd say even that period is less restrictive than now.

  • 8 May 2024, 11:14 p.m.

    I definitely think that's the direction of travel. But I decided to take all the data, rather than cherry pick.

    There are many more games in the modern 'ship where you know the result in advance. If not the score.

  • 9 May 2024, 7:13 a.m.

    I wouldn’t like an American style wage cap at all. I’ve no major issue at all of some clubs being able to afford more than others, that’s life. And it makes that win against Arsenal or Man Utd even better. With some good management clubs with lower budgets can still overachieve and get into europe or win domestic trophies.

  • 9 May 2024, 7:36 a.m.

    Last 10 years FA Cup been won by 1 club outside Sky 6 (Leicester) and League Cup by 0. So not sure the idea of a well run minor club winning anything is really true. And as posted above expect that to get worse not better as disparity continues to increase.

  • 9 May 2024, 7:40 a.m.

    Half the reason for that is because most PL teams play weakened sides. If they all
    Went for it it wouldn’t just be the top the 6 winning it each season.

  • 9 May 2024, 7:49 a.m.

    Not sure that's true any more. Most premier league teams put out strong teams in the fa Cup nowadays.

  • 9 May 2024, 8:34 a.m.

    Big Athletic piece about potentially moving from Trentside. Seems to be the club just trying to defend itself and put pressure on the council, rather than anything concrete.
    Does say the new training ground plans have fallen through though.
    And alludes to being a bit more careful about expenditure, possibly learning lessons around PSR.

  • 9 May 2024, 9:11 a.m.

    Still pushing Toton pretty hard, including Taylor going to view the site (unless I'm misreading that bit). Madness.

    Penny did drop for me, though recently, regarding the pubs and bars around West Bridgford that must make a significant amount of income on matchdays. Of course, from the club's perspective, if you move to Toton, where that infrastructure doesn't exist, then all that money gets spent in the club's "fanzones".

  • 9 May 2024, 9:20 a.m.

    No shit sherlock. Like every football ground around the UK. ;-)

    There would clearly be a big loss of income to the area if Forest moved, but it's a pretty wealthy area, so I think most businesses would survive.

    It's a good point from the Forest perspective though. Stick some huge fans zones/pubs next to the ground in Toton as well as some good transport links and they'd really pull the money into the club rather than the local area.

  • 9 May 2024, 9:20 a.m.

    It's not the only infrastructure that doesn't exist at toton.

  • 9 May 2024, 9:32 a.m.

    That's my point. While we see the pubs around West Bridgford and south of the city centre as a benefit to being at the City Ground, if you are looking at the club's PSR compliance, that's millions of pounds of revenue that's being lost. (Very, very conserative estimate - 10,000 people drinking/eating outside the ground, averaging £10, 20 times a season = £2,000,000, or roughly what they'll get from the ST price increase.)