Well I've seen a number of Independent Non Execs who really aren't and follow the money. So yes, I guess I am saying that is possible.
I admire your faith in someone who is old and has a fancy title not wanting freebies to big games (for example).
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That's a different issue, and not at all related to my answer - which was intentionally of narrow scope.
I think we had a terrible case. I think that under the rules, as they exist, and our behaviour towards them we absolutely got away with one. Largely because, as ever, the governance of the game is piss weak and folded under the 'furore' after the initial Everton verdict.
Don't believe that same piss weak governance, and self interest, isn't exploited by other principals. The whole can of wormy participants, and their marketing and business over sport, is a complete car crash.
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Yes, hopefully we have a plan for him.
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Lord Dyson was a supreme court judge and master of the rolls. That is a role which you only do if you are capable of being totally impartial, have no need to make vast sums of money (you could make many many times more doing other things in the law and probably have) and have genius level intellect. It's a job which is massively beyond most lawyers, even KCs, High Court judges, Judge Rinder and jp and he did it very well for a number of years.
The others on the panel are not quite at that level, but they are still big hitters and having read it, unsurprisingly, it is a very high quality judgment.
The rules may not be fair, but the way they have applied them can't be faulted.
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Steve, meet Forest. Forest, meet Steve!
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I didn't expect points back. I also didn't expect it to take them this long to release a what? 17 page report? That differed in no way from the original verdict?
Why did it take so long? Did they not realise that releasing after the weekend fixtures would leave them open to accusations of result watching? And why didn't PGMOL realise that Atwell was a Luton fan? We shouldn't have had to request his removal. They really don't help themselves. It's easy to see why fans are angry.
But I don't subscribe to the idea that the hearing commission, PGMOL and the Premier League are corrupt. I do think that they are pig fucking ignorant about the bigger picture in terms of timing at least. I also don't think they give a fuck about fans, because fans don't provide the money that TV and overseas markets do.
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A minor point but the club regards it as unfair that we had to operate with a lower loss than the rest of the premier league over the three year period because we were in the championship. I assume we have been lobbying since for a rule change so that, for example, Ipswich aren't as unfairly hampered? It's all about fairness, after all. (I'm guessing Ipswich don't have the ability or desire to lose £100m anyway.)
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The new rules do correct this point I think? Though I'm sure introduce other bad quirks.
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There was discussion of this at the weekend. JJ was saying the same on 5Live. For “sleeping giants” who have been out of the prem for a while, it’s definitely a big disadvantage compared to yo-yo clubs who get parachute payments.
I can feel a formula coming on: if you get promoted and are still receiving parachute payments, they get taken off your annual allowance. Otherwise your 3 year allowance should be the same as premiership clubs (ie there are two preceding seasons you could tot up) It only applies if you get promoted so it would discourage overspending in anticipation of promotion.
It would be somewhat Alanis if we were relegated for breaching a rule which then got changed.
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Still nothing on what the tariff of punishments for a breach will be or a realistic timeline for the case to be processed. Has Everton's appeal even been heard yet? The PL are lucky that they are now out of the relegation picture.
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Ultimately all we are interested in is making it so that the advantage comes to us rather than someone else. Fairness isn't the issue, it's just making sure we're on the right side of the unfairness. At that point all conspiracies end.
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I'm honestly not. I'd love the PL to have a wage-cap / budget per team and really level the playing field. It would be so much fun to have a truly competitive league from top to bottom.
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Don't see how you can put the genie back in the bottle, and persuade businesses to vote against their interests, to make things sporting. It's just completely contrary to their nature.
The only way it happens is if fans, all fans, mobilise and stop all spending (attendance, TV, merch, the lot), and thereby undermine their sunk investment to such a level that they accept the unacceptable (to them) to preserve some value.
Never going to happen.
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It probably moves on eventually, but the brand is so strong now that it will take something major to shift it elsewhere. A genuine International Super League might do it.
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It's the only way out, the big six brands fuck off and then a hard reset includes a salary cap.
I'm away at the moment and saw a family walking through Tenby with 3 kids (not mine). One was in United shirt, one in a City shirt and one in a Liverpool shirt. What a family of cunts.
