• 20 Apr 2024, 8:22 a.m.

    There’s the old cartoon of a chairman going into a dressing room and saying something along the lines of “thanks for getting promotion, now we can sign some better players”. Marinakis has combined that with also wanting some better supporters.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 10:10 a.m.

    It’s a rude awakening for many fans that because we have been so shit for so long all this has happened in a short space of time.

    Our ticket prices have been silly cheap for some for many years. Our hospitality has been inadequate too.

    Don’t expect people to like the changes or prices rises but that’s premier league football.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 10:18 a.m.

    We're not really a premier league club though are we?

  • 20 Apr 2024, 10:27 a.m.

    Certainly not infrastructure wise.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 11:03 a.m.
  • 20 Apr 2024, 11:41 a.m.

    You're confusing being in the premier league with being a premier league club.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 11:42 a.m.

    The danger here is thinking that the Premier League is good. As we see time and again, the Premier League is generally a negative force in the game, so signing up to all that it wants us to be is not necessarily the right thing to do.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 12:09 p.m.

    Fair enough, but can you do that and not get relegated back to the even bigger loss making (proportionally) shit show that is the Championship?

  • 20 Apr 2024, 2:07 p.m.

    The amount of people I see romanticising about the championship as they enjoyed that one season and Wembley is insane. It was fucking dreadful for us for years.

    I can understand people not liking the PL concept but the answer isn’t being mediocre in the championship. I’d suggest following a non league team would make more sense (but with a warning that gets equally as political and silly at times, just with less money).

  • 20 Apr 2024, 2:13 p.m.

    We’re not a well, or even competently, run premier club but that’s a different question. Sheffield United are a premier league club for the next few weeks.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 2:27 p.m.

    I'm not romanticising the Championship, the Premier League has made that shit too.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 2:29 p.m.

    Having a distinct and engaging identity though that is sustained in whichever league we happen to be in from one season to the next, that would be interesting.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 2:36 p.m.

    I followed a non-league team for a bit then the stupid cunts went and got promoted.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 2:44 p.m.

    Aspirational cunts.

    But I mean proper non league. Volunteer stewards, £10 to get in, players on a few hundred quid a game. (If they are lucky).

    Carlton seem to be doing alright at Step 4. Ex hooligan Boatsy is involved there. Think Basford are at Step 3.

    Grantham Town are doing pretty shit.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 3:24 p.m.

    Non-league seems to be for football fans who don't actually like football that much. I really don't understand how cheap beer makes up for shit football - I went to Notts last season when they were all conquering and it was an abject standard of football compared to Forest, I don't want to even think how much worse it is a couple or three levels further down. I'd have to think hard about opening the curtains if they were playing in my back garden.

  • 20 Apr 2024, 4:11 p.m.

    I like non league football as I like any football but you aren’t wrong. There are some very good individuals at lower down, a few have been in the PL academies but there is rarely much danger of an exciting game of football breaking out. It is pretty direct and as much time wasting and spoilers as you see in higher leagues.

    You also get the same stupid arguments like Corby being the leagues Leeds United as they take 50 fans to away games or fans of some opposing clubs saying there was no atmosphere at your ground etc.