I went to a testimonial - ian Bowyer’s I think - and Larry came on as a sub. He wore a generic red top because they couldn’t find a forest one to fit him.
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I never saw Lloyd play - he left Forest two years before my first game - so I only know him as the mildly crap commentator when games were on Century (?) and a general irritant around the club through some of our more challenging years.
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He did the phone in too. Did he get fired for Fletch and Birtles?
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Ah yes the notorious phone in show. He made Gary Birtles seem like the most positive man on earth.
Great player in his day though. Dirty as fuck. Very effective. I am sure Tricky got a lot of his defending inspiration from old (dead) Larry.
Chicago: Memory man.
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Home shirts are on sale at the club shop for 20 quid, the internet tells me.
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Forest, Spurs , the train drivers and the PL can all fuck right off for moving the Spurs away game at this late stage.
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Sorry. Completely wrong thread. Imagine my embarrassment.
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The latest accounts covering last year are out. Unsurprisingly it's not pretty. We made loads more money, but spent loads more, have debts secured against all our assets, an overdraft and still owe £117M on the £170M of new signings we made.
And we won the richest game in the world just beforehand.
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I liked Larry he was a legend, part of the great European Cup winning side and a really nice bloke. I met him a couple of times and he was a down to earth person. I actually met quite a few of the players from that time including Brian Clough. I recall my local ( Basford Miners aka as Creepers) asking Cloughie for a player for the NCB first aid awards and the whole European Cup winning squad turned up with Brian. It was a great night and I sat with Birtles the whole night. I met Larry again in a pub in Bunny he was with Robbo.
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We’re proper fucked, aren’t we? Just a matter of when it unwinds.
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We received 10 times as much TV money as we did in the Championship but all of it went on wages, so everything else we did that year had to be funded from somewhere else, mostly a combination of the owner and outside debt. At the end of the year, we had no cash, a £13M overdraft and a £45M loan, but still owed £117M for the players we had signed. I know we have assets, though they are precarious as injuries and form can significantly impact their value, but that first year in the PL has been a massive drain on our resources and all we get for it is the need to do it all again. That's not a criticism of Forest per se (though I do criticise Forest specifically as well) but it is a massive problem for English football. If Marinakis had decided he'd had enough on 1 July 2023 we would have imploded and we run that risk every day now, but if it happens we'll all be up in arms writing to our MPs and saying don't punish the fans.
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Genuinely don't think I would. It'd be a release.
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Worst case is we’d go into admin, debts go and someone else takes it on.
It isn’t really worth stressing about.
We managed L1 and those away cup defeats when being ‘well run’.
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Not quite. Our loans are secured against our academy, property and business, and football creditors also have to be cleared. So, when we start again we start with nothing. And we'll have done over a load of local businesses.
It's not about stressing over it though, just being aware of it.
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You do seem to enjoy this disposable billionaires stance.
Hows it going for Reading at the moment?
