• 8 Aug 2023, 5:15 p.m.
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  • 9 Aug 2023, 10:41 a.m.

    I see that the tory government have mooted no longer following the european convention on human rights, under the cover of 'solving' the immigration crisis, that they have intentionally created. While supporting vile behaviour from one of their own leading figures. A man who apparently believes that people who have no access to transport, or cooking facilities, can make a meal for 30p.

    Be very sure that these are vile scumbags, not acting in the interests of our wider society. They are curtailing your rights, opportunities, and standard of living, to make you a captive unit for their funders to exploit.

  • 10 Aug 2023, 6:57 p.m.
  • 11 Aug 2023, 1:06 a.m.

    I see another Tory had a clear undeclared conflict of interest, while screwing us all over.

    I'm taking about theresa villiers on this occasion. I have to explicitly tell you, because the description alone doesn't narrow it down much.

  • 11 Aug 2023, 6:57 a.m.

    He’s a creepy fuck. But mainly, how the fuck is anyone buying a journalist saying ‘yeah I’m an amateur photographer too, would you like to come and pose in your pants for a proper modelling gig I’m working on’? (And, to their credit, a bunch of his targets appear to have not bought it at all.)

    TBH, though, I’m not sure how much I buy this as a man abusing his power to see willies. Sure, he lied and is gross.. but this isn’t Harvey Weinstein using his position and status to enable abuse. This guy has no power over these people and doesn’t appear to have represented that he has. He’s not pushed the boundaries of consent* beyond lying about why he’s doing it (not ok, but not unusual). I’m not familiar with his ‘work’ but I’d assume this sort of thing doesn’t align with the values he espouses.. but ‘right wing hack is a flaming hypocrite’ is more normal than not. Byline Times may be on the right side of things, but often seems to want to ham things up far beyond any substance, and is consequently difficult to take seriously.

    * I know there are other aspects to the wider story where he’s alleged to have tried to film people without consent. That’s a very different and more serious matter. And, I assume, a criminal offence. That’s part of the problem with this reporting.. it’s badly written and meanders with equal waffle around every revelation as if they are all equally significant when they aren’t.

  • 11 Aug 2023, 7:47 a.m.

    I think it's almost identical to Weinstein.

    Wooton was the Sun's Showbiz editor during this period. He absolutely had the power to make or break these minor celebs.

    If you lie in order to gain consent that's immoral and sometimes illegal. It might not be unusual, but that's not the test.

  • 11 Aug 2023, 8:48 a.m.
  • 11 Aug 2023, 1:07 p.m.

    What are they doing to us? Why? Are you going to let them?

  • 11 Aug 2023, 1:46 p.m.

    Nah, that’s way off. Weinstein had immense power to directly impact the careers of people in movies. If he said ‘I’ll get you movies if you do this’ he could, and did, follow through. Threats to damage a career of someone crossing him.. again.. very real. A tabloid showbiz editor has no such power. And, per those accounts, he never claimed he did.. indeed, he chose to tell a different lie entirely.

    Yeah, sure, maybe a minor sleb who wants to get in the papers will think that doing something for the Sun’s showbiz guy will lead to a bit of a bump and he took advantage of that.. but it’s tenuous and, sorry, I don’t see a power dynamic worth a fuss. Also, he was creeping on guys he met from all walks of life.. there’s no indication that he particularly targeted the sorts of people who’d be interested in career favours.. it was just that some of those people were in his orbit.

    And if the story was been presented like that I would say ‘yeah, what he did was creepy and wrong and it’s good to call people out on it’ but it is all being presented as a shocking exposé of this particular person without framing it in the wider context of society’s problem with consent.

    I’m not excusing his behaviour or saying it’s not worth reporting on, just that they are going OTT on a political enemy and the desire to make a big deal out of every aspect makes it all sound a bit desperate.

  • 12 Aug 2023, 9:52 a.m.

    If the showbiz editor of The Sun puts you in the paper every day, you're suddenly exactly the kind of Z-list celebrity whose goal in life is to be in The Sun every day. He had immense power in this world.

    I agree that no-one would be making as much fuss if Wooton wasn't also a loathsome figure on a right-wing populist TV channel but I think that's just tough shit. Don't be a cunt and then your cunty behaviour won't come back to haunt you

  • 12 Aug 2023, 8:08 p.m.

    Former Brexit secretary David Davis, who went to negotiate britains exit from the eu without notes, a working idea of how it worked, and didn't see it through. Didn't have a clue. Has accused the government of 'startling incompetence'.

    We know David, we know.

  • 22 Aug 2023, 9:36 a.m.

    www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/aug/22/comedian-lorna-rose-treen-funniest-joke-fringe

    Am I missing something or just being picky to point out that the winning joke doesn't work and is a worse version of the kids' joke "Why shouldn't you play cards in the jungle?"

    (9 doesn't work either but only if you know that the "Nationwide" building society was formed as a merger of local building societies which I'll accept doesn't kill the joke for most people.)

  • 22 Aug 2023, 9:49 a.m.

    I like a certain kind of bad jokes. I don't like those.

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    22 Aug 2023, 9:51 a.m.

    I thought it was a semi-decent dad joke but all of the other top 10 were much better.