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tricky
25 Apr 2023
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    Mangetout
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    13 Sep 2025, 11:15 p.m. 13 Sep 2025, 11:15 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Don't they realise the bald bloke majority want them out?

    Some think that if they side with the bigots, then the bigots will leave them alone. Others are similarly bigoted.
    As we've seen in the US, the old "they don't mean me" fallacy is strong.

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    Russ
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    13 Sep 2025, 11:24 p.m. 13 Sep 2025, 11:24 p.m.
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    On that topic, Canada First (our own brand of fascists) held a much publicised march at Christie Pits this afternoon, a park in Toronto where famously in 1933 immigrant communities banded together and kicked the shit out of a bunch of Nazis. Apparently a few hundred turned up and were met by literally thousands of anti-fascist protesters, sounds like it has all been very peaceful but we'll see what happens tonight. Funny that probably Canada's most high profile left wing / anti fascist punk band is playing a big show in Toronto the same night, I imagine the police will ensure that the Maple MAGAs are kept well away from that.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    13 Sep 2025, 11:44 p.m. 13 Sep 2025, 11:44 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    it's important not to point to logical holes that don't on the surface exist as evidence of a failed argument.

    But the logical hole does exist? He wants to stop the millions of migrants that have come on small boats when there aren't millions of migrants coming on small boats.

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    13 Sep 2025, 11:54 p.m. 13 Sep 2025, 11:54 p.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:
    @Russ has written:

    it's important not to point to logical holes that don't on the surface exist as evidence of a failed argument.

    But the logical hole does exist? He wants to stop the millions of migrants that have come on small boats when there aren't millions of migrants coming on small boats.

    Sure, that's the correct argument. The fact that there are minorities marching with him isn't.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2188 posts
    14 Sep 2025, midnight 14 Sep 2025, midnight
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    I'm confused, the bloke on the news and the people I saw on the tube were separate points . Guess I should have done them in separate posts to make this clearer.

    My points were

    1. People have fallen for the narrative that millions have arrived on small boats and that is causing all the counties issues.

    2. Other people believe 'its not me' they are marching against.

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    14 Sep 2025, 12:06 a.m. 14 Sep 2025, 12:06 a.m.
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    Oh I see, my apologies. I didn't read properly and conflated the two.

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    steve
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    14 Sep 2025, 7:30 a.m. 14 Sep 2025, 7:30 a.m.
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    I would have thought Elon Musk calling for violence in our streets and an overthrow of the UK government would be a bigger diplomatic incident. The media have barely mentioned this deliberate incitement and interference in our country by a foreign national.

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    Simon
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    14 Sep 2025, 7:38 a.m. 14 Sep 2025, 7:38 a.m.
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    @steve has written:

    I would have thought Elon Musk calling for violence in our streets and an overthrow of the UK government would be a bigger diplomatic incident. The media have barely mentioned this deliberate incitement and interference in our country by a foreign national.

    A foreign national with significant business interests in this country, no less.

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    Seven
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    14 Sep 2025, 3:51 p.m. 14 Sep 2025, 3:51 p.m.
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    They were also holding placards in tribute to Charlie Kirk. (Someone most of them hadn’t heard of until this week).

    And that they were being silenced like he was (as they were openly being allowed to make their voice heard).

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    tricky
    Board 7321 posts
    14 Sep 2025, 4:01 p.m. 14 Sep 2025, 4:01 p.m.
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    It was poignant that his widow made an impassioned public statement on behalf of continuing his work. While at the same time disrespecting his memory by not being a good wife at home, being seen but not heard.

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    Mangetout
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    14 Sep 2025, 5:52 p.m. 14 Sep 2025, 5:52 p.m.
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    There's a tendency in the political centre to discuss how Kirk debated, rather than what he debated. Presumably because "polite" is more appealing than "bigot".

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    chicago
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    23 Sep 2025, 7:34 p.m. 23 Sep 2025, 7:34 p.m.
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    Who needs the U.N. Anyway….

    Chicago: Tired of the madness.

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    24 Sep 2025, 2:27 p.m. 24 Sep 2025, 2:27 p.m.
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    This isn’t good.

    www.nytimes.com/athletic/6654203/2025/09/24/leading-premier-league-figure-police-arrest/

    (If you're wondering who it is, his name starts with D and ends with avid Sullivan.)

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    tricky
    Board 7321 posts
    24 Sep 2025, 2:36 p.m. 24 Sep 2025, 2:36 p.m.
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    I always hated crossword clues, especially fiendishly cryptic ones.

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    24 Sep 2025, 3:34 p.m. 24 Sep 2025, 3:34 p.m.
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    Sorry about that, I wanted to keep it sufficiently obscure that there was no risk of being sued. If you're struggling I can give you a hint, but it will also have to be obscure.

    (Hint: he owns a club in East London that plays in a massive stadium and he made his money from porn.)

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    chicago
    Squad 2552 posts
    25 Sep 2025, 3:43 p.m. 25 Sep 2025, 3:43 p.m.
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    SHOCKER!

    Chicago: Re-living 1989

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