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tricky
25 Apr 2023
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    Seven
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    6 Jul 2025, 9:33 p.m. 6 Jul 2025, 9:33 p.m.
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    Reform have spent the first couple of months in power in Leics County deciding they won’t fly flags of minority groups at County Hall.

    Should they ever control the country this is the kind of things we will have to look forward to. And more.

    I doubt the government would barely function, they can’t even keep the few they have in line with the woman beating one having to give up the whip whilst his Covid loans are investigated.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 3:25 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 3:25 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    Balanced around what is the question?

    Not sure. Just based on Tory supporters and Labour supporters both claiming bias to the other side

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    Jake
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    7 Jul 2025, 6:34 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 6:34 a.m.
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    There's a blue ball. Half the country has been persuaded that it is red.

    Some reporters report it as being a blue ball. Others report it as being a red ball.

    That's balanced. The ball is now purple.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 8:51 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 8:51 a.m.
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    Seems.more like the ball is purple, but people who would prefer a blue ball see it as red and those who would prefer a red ball see it as blue.

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    Jake
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    7 Jul 2025, 10:14 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 10:14 a.m.
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    No. The ball is blue. You can't change facts.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 10:22 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 10:22 a.m.
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    So you're saying the BBC is Tory, FACT. I refer you to my original post, that neither side can comprehend how the other side can think the way they do (I am taking the wild stab that you are a Labour man).

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    Jake
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    7 Jul 2025, 10:38 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 10:38 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    I am taking the wild stab that you are a Labour man

    Under Starmer? Never have been, never will be. Starmer's truth is the purple.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 10:51 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 10:51 a.m.
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    But we were talking about the BBC?

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    Jake
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    7 Jul 2025, 10:58 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 10:58 a.m.
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    Yes...

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 11:19 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 11:19 a.m.
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    So you think the BBC is Tory. Like all Labour people do.

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    Mangetout
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    7 Jul 2025, 11:29 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 11:29 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    So you think the BBC is Tory. Like all Labour people do.

    So you're a Tory. Because you stereotype all Labour people incorrectly.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 11:44 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 11:44 a.m.
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    OK all may have been shorthand, but yes most on here will say the BBC is Tory biased and most Tories I know will say the opposite. Which was my point way back.

    (and both sides are so blinkered to tthat view that they cannot even begin to see why the other side think as they do)

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    Mangetout
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    7 Jul 2025, 11:59 a.m. 7 Jul 2025, 11:59 a.m.
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    I think I have already said earlier why I reckon each side thinks the way they do. And I'm very biased.

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    tricky
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    7 Jul 2025, 12:03 p.m. 7 Jul 2025, 12:03 p.m.
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    The fact that people frame their allegiances around traditional 'teams' is part of the problem here. Those teams use different tactics, play in different leagues, and even get involved in different sports, at different times. It's just laundry.

    It should be about framing the best society that you can, based on your values and beliefs, most closely aligned to the bunch of people that can actually do something useful, or at worst not even more bad. In the real world, nobody is going to hold exactly the same framework of values and beliefs as you, and nobody is going be able to avoid criticism on one point or another. If something that looks like the current government, is attracting more criticism and less promotion than a company formed to encourage a bunch of liars, losers and the immoral, to disrupt our social discourse and values, funded by unknown external parties, and supporting broadly the same objectives as previous recent governments and destabilising paid for malign actors promoting their causes against societies broader interests, that caused damage, destabilisation and diminishment of the country, at a massive cost to standards of living and opportunity, your spidey senses should be tingling....and telling you to be wary of those sources that guided you down a dark and dangerous path before (every week on question time), Particularly if they are currently giving false prominence to the opinions and values of said destabilising organisation which has no discernible talent involved, without a track record of successfully running even a bath, and demonstrably involved with much worse behaviours and allies than mainstream actors whose views they are being promoted over.

    Or you might have had a whisk inserted in your ears.

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    Charlie
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    7 Jul 2025, 12:10 p.m. 7 Jul 2025, 12:10 p.m.
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    I don't think that many BBC journalists are Tory biased. I believe most are in it because they want to hold power to account and to shine a light into the world's darkest corners. But I do think they currently live in a climate of fear - fear of being accused of lack of balance by Tory appointed board members, fear of the corporation losing global respect and influence in the face of cuts, fear of the licence fee ending and the BBC becoming like all the rest. And this makes them over cautious about calling out some powerful right-wing interests including big tech, oil and gas corporates, the populist media, and individuals like Trump and Farage - and this makes them appear to be biased towards the Tories.

    As for an inherent Labour bias, journalists are for the most part intelligent and well-qualified individuals and there is a clear correlation between the level to which somebody is educated and how they vote. It's why the Tories hate universities. Blair's 'Education, Education, Education' translates pretty directly into 'Labour, Labour, Labour'.

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    7 Jul 2025, 1:23 p.m. 7 Jul 2025, 1:23 p.m.
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    @Charlie has written:

    appear to be biased towards the Tories.

    And yet the folks I know (degree educated) would be apoplectic with rage at this statement.

    It's a funny old game as they say!

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