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tricky
25 Apr 2023
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    tricky
    Board 7336 posts
    22 May 2025, 5:52 p.m. 22 May 2025, 5:52 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    I'm interested to see what they can achieve

    I am completely uninterested in what humans can do with pharmacological or machine assistance.

    I am interested in what humans can actually learn to do with refinements to techniques, training, diet and routine.

    YMMV.

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    22 May 2025, 6:41 p.m. 22 May 2025, 6:41 p.m.
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    Cool. That's why you have clean, ethical and honest competitions like the Olympics to enjoy.

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    tricky
    Board 7336 posts
    22 May 2025, 7:02 p.m. 22 May 2025, 7:02 p.m.
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    Sarcasm doesn't become you.

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    22 May 2025, 7:06 p.m. 22 May 2025, 7:06 p.m.
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    Am I wrong? I'm not saying you should have any interest in an openly juiced competition, but I know you're not pretending that other major events aren't exercises in seeing who's the best at concealing the juice.

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    JellyHead
    Squad 87 posts
    22 May 2025, 7:10 p.m. 22 May 2025, 7:10 p.m.
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    @tricky has written:
    @Russ has written:

    I'm interested to see what they can achieve

    I am completely uninterested in what humans can do with pharmacological or machine assistance.

    I am interested in what humans can actually learn to do with refinements to techniques, training, diet and routine.

    YMMV.

    Agree with you on machine assistance, but not pharmaceutical assistance. I'd also add in selective breeding, I've read a number of articles theorising that the Caribbean and USA lead the way in sprinting because of the slave trade which was basically rapid natural selection.

    Of course I'm looking at this from a sports science stand point, what is the effect and what is the potential of all pathways.

    From a purist stand point I agree. If it ain't natural, no. But where do you draw the line? I can't recall if it was the Soveits or East Germany that routinely got the female athletes pregnant and aborted them to basically give them PEDs.

    From an entertainment standpoint.... well the masses will decide via foot fall.

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    Simon
    Squad 6598 posts
    22 May 2025, 7:20 p.m. 22 May 2025, 7:20 p.m.
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    @JellyHead has written:

    From an entertainment standpoint.... well the masses will decide via foot fall.

    Pretty confident it’ll remain a sideshow but it needs to be destroying world records to get any traction whatsoever.

    If it’s “mediocre” athletes running (say) 9.9 second 100 meters, no-one’s going to be interested. Run 9.5 and there’s something to see.

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    tricky
    Board 7336 posts
    22 May 2025, 7:26 p.m. 22 May 2025, 7:26 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    If it’s “mediocre” athletes running (say) 9.9 second 100 meters, no-one’s going to be interested. Run 9.5 and there’s something to see.

    The sort of ghouls (and pharma) who get involved will ensure that's where the money is. So top athletes will take that route. And a pyramid of prospects (kids) will get jacked up and surgically enhanced. And breeding programmes, obviously.

    Its what we will want sport to be about. Don't worry, your champions will have great branding.

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    22 May 2025, 7:27 p.m. 22 May 2025, 7:27 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @JellyHead has written:

    From an entertainment standpoint.... well the masses will decide via foot fall.

    Pretty confident it’ll remain a sideshow but it needs to be destroying world records to get any traction whatsoever.

    If it’s “mediocre” athletes running (say) 9.9 second 100 meters, no-one’s going to be interested. Run 9.5 and there’s something to see.

    Did you read the article? A guy who went to 4 Olympics and never medaled already broke the 100m freestyle record and they haven't even started competing yet.

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    Psychobel
    Squad 907 posts
    22 May 2025, 9:56 p.m. 22 May 2025, 9:56 p.m.
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    Mad as our beloved leader is, I believe he is, sadly, very correct in this. We will largely be cyborgs in the next 25 years anyway so it follows.

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    Sean
    Squad 2031 posts
    22 May 2025, 10:04 p.m. 22 May 2025, 10:04 p.m.
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    @Psychobel has written:

    Mad as our beloved leader is, I believe he is, sadly, very correct in this. We will largely be cyborgs in the next 25 years anyway so it follows.

    I read that last bit in the voice of Jim McDonald. So I did.

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    22 May 2025, 10:17 p.m. 22 May 2025, 10:17 p.m.
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    Cool. I'm absolutely down for my consciousness getting planted into an endlessly upgradeable and supportable physical unit, versus a time limited and endlessly degrading carbon-based platform.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2426 posts
    22 May 2025, 10:21 p.m. 22 May 2025, 10:21 p.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    Cool. I'm absolutely down for my consciousness getting planted into an endlessly upgradeable and supportable physical unit, versus a time limited and endlessly degrading carbon-based platform.

    Altered Carbon suggested the inevitable dark side of this. You won't own the body, the corporations will.

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    22 May 2025, 10:24 p.m. 22 May 2025, 10:24 p.m.
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    If the alternative is not existing at all, that still seems like a straightforward choice.

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    Resident_Alien
    Squad 750 posts
    22 May 2025, 10:49 p.m. 22 May 2025, 10:49 p.m.
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    Is Russ leaning into eugenics again?

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    22 May 2025, 10:53 p.m. 22 May 2025, 10:53 p.m.
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    @Resident_Alien has written:

    Is Russ leaning into eugenics again?

    How is prolonging my own existence eugenics?

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    Jake
    Squad 1819 posts
    22 May 2025, 11:05 p.m. 22 May 2025, 11:05 p.m.
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    What's wrong with the traditional way of just having kids?

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